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London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby olan » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:52 pm

https://follakzoid.bandcamp.com/album/london-sessions

Anyone want to bet against a limited edition vinyl release for RSD? :roll:
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby rameses » Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:09 pm

Can't go wrong for $3 :) (even if it does convert to £2.96 :o )
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby flokie » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:00 pm

So not an RSD release, but RSD prices for sure, ouch. (working out at £14/£18 best exchange rate). Still I'm going to be very tempted to pick up that ltd edition 12"!
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Postby angelsighs » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:05 pm

ha they met backstage at a Wooden Shjips gig.. could they BE any more psych? :)

I'm assuming Jason plays guitar? it's not that clear

the limited edition does sound gorgeous.. but then you think you can just buy the download for $3... I'm all for physical music but sometimes you wonder
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Postby burningwheel » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:05 pm

Sacred bones only does a comp lp every year for rsd
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Postby herman » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:32 pm

Ordered the damn thing! (Although 25$ shipping costs is a freakin` lot of money)
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby TheWarmth » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:05 am

Shit. The gold version sold out quickly. Oh well. Black standard for me.
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby clewsr » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:51 pm

Was about to buy a copy, but $25 shipping when the thing itself is $17 seems a bit of a killer.
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Postby burningwheel » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:57 pm

TheWarmth wrote:Shit. The gold version sold out quickly. Oh well. Black standard for me.

I knew it would go quick
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby flokie » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:32 pm

Shipping was definitely the killer for me. I'll wait for the normal 12" to hit the shops.
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Postby spzretent » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:34 pm

Several UK Forum Members used my PO Box and I will email their d/l codes and either ship together or hopefully hand deliver.
I am always willing to do that. Keep that in mind in the future.
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Postby purespace » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:15 am

That's kind of you to do spzretent. Looking forward to a gold vinyl listen.
I think I feel it coming on
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Postby burningwheel » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:06 am

I guess this is a UK rsd release, not the gold version though
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby flokie » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:04 pm

spzretent wrote:Several UK Forum Members used my PO Box and I will email their d/l codes and either ship together or hopefully hand deliver.
I am always willing to do that. Keep that in mind in the future.


Good to know, cheers, I'll keep that in mind. I guess it wasn't meant to be this time!
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby davedecay » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:33 pm

This is how I feel when looking at UK releases, between exchange rate and shipping costs. Ugh!
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Postby davedecay » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:05 pm

For example:
http://www.firerecords.com/product/a-sc ... oundtrack/

Green and purple marbled vinyl LP.
£19.99

$24.46 US plus overseas shipping.
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Postby spzretent » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:07 pm

davedecay wrote:This is how I feel when looking at UK releases, between exchange rate and shipping costs. Ugh!

Not sure who you order from in the UK but many places will take off the VAT tax (20%-ish) which winds up covering shipping. Also the exchange rate has been really favorable to the U$D since Brexit.
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Postby davedecay » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:14 am

Exchange rates have definitely improved.

does Rough Trade UK remove VAT?
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Postby spzretent » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:30 pm

Yes. I am pretty sure they do.
Piccadilly Records do.
Amazon UK do.
I wont order from anywhere that wont(Norman).
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Postby davedecay » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:21 pm

Good to know, thanks. I wasn't aware of the VAT situation with US buyers.
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Postby burningwheel » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:52 pm

All uk stores remove the vat from my experience. Rough trade def does
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby Starfish » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:05 pm

In case anyone wasn't aware, Follakzoid are in Europe next month.

In the UK they're playing Manchester (May 18), London (19) and Birmingham (20)
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Postby Aquarian-Time » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:53 am

They are playing LIverpool the night before Manchester as well. I have tickets for London but unsure if I will go as its now an all nighter type affair, and I'm not as resilient as I used to be...(5am :shock: )
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby angelsighs » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:55 pm

Aquarian-Time wrote:They are playing LIverpool the night before Manchester as well. I have tickets for London but unsure if I will go as its now an all nighter type affair, and I'm not as resilient as I used to be...(5am :shock: )


bloody hell! that is a bit of a late one isn't!

thing is, great support line up isn't it.

pretty sure I'm gonna go to the Birmingham show. I think the motorik thing can be a bit played out, but Follakzoid do it really well in my opinion.
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Postby olan » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:39 pm

Aquarian-Time wrote:They are playing LIverpool the night before Manchester as well. I have tickets for London but unsure if I will go as its now an all nighter type affair, and I'm not as resilient as I used to be...(5am :shock: )


I'm going to Liverpool simply because it is close by. I thought about the MCR show but really couldn't raise the enthusiasm.

angelsighs wrote:
I think the motorik thing can be a bit played out, but Follakzoid do it really well in my opinion.


I absolutely agree about the motorik thing being a bit flogged to death. However, Follakzoid do it well enough to get me interested in their record with Jason and a local night out.
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby angelsighs » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:20 am

olan wrote:I absolutely agree about the motorik thing being a bit flogged to death. However, Follakzoid do it well enough to get me interested in their record with Jason and a local night out.


too true Olan. yet another band of pale youths pounding out a motorik beat mostly bores me to tears.
but I think there's something about the way Follakzoid do it which hits the spot. I like the waves of rippling delay guitar for one thing. their set at the ATP we went to was a clear highlight of the whole weekend in my opinion.
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby mojo filters » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:38 pm

For several years there seems to be an increasing number of bands describing themselves as "motorik" or referencing Krautrock and / or bands from the original era. The quality of much of this music varies tremendously, as does the variety and how closely applicable the use of such terminology is.

"Motorik" beats or rhythm seems to have become a popular description for reviewers writing about nearly any band playing with straight 4/4 percussion, avoiding any variety and syncopation. I've heard more than a few bands that seem content to add live highly effected guitars, over clichéd synth and drum loops right out of the basic Ableton package!

The latter seems like an easy way to produce a hybrid of rock instrumentation and common elements of 4/4 orientated electronic music genres, especially conventional trance and techno. When executed via competent performances, the results generally sound pretty good at gigs in venues with decent PA rigs (especially decent subwoofers capable of cleanly producing heavy bass synths, which generally have significant low frequency content down to 30Hz or lower, and are far more taxing on subs than conventional rock'n'roll bass content) along with someone capable behind the mixing desk.

It's a shame that those genuinely writing and performing interesting and original music within the same broad genre, are commonly associated with, and to many ears not particularly distinguishable from, the not so exciting unoriginal efforts. Admittedly the difference is much more noticeable on properly recorded material, for those who are able / can afford to put out such. Unfortunately with live gigs providing the more lucrative opportunities for musicians these days, the band that can pull off a professional performance of repetitive and unimaginative material, often get more opportunities to impress casual punters.

These days I'm immediately put off any band that references Krautrock and motorik rhythms in their publicity materials. It's a shame that this affects those with the potential to produce interesting music. I've always enjoyed musicians that can blend organic instruments with electronica, ever since I discovered dance music classics such as Underworld's Spikee and Aphex Twin's Didgeridoo. I then got into Stereolab, moving on to become a huge fan of Magnetophone and The Earlies.

I'd love to hear some current artists combining flavours of diverse genres such as folk and other acoustic music, coherently in with electronica of all varieties. I don't need to hear any more clichéd psychedelic guitar riffs, played over some generic techno-esque backing of 4/4 beats on 808 kick drums, 303 basslines and predictably-filtered synthesizers!
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Postby TheWarmth » Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:38 pm

Mojo: Have you gotten into Cavern of Anti-Matter? I'm really into both of their albums.
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Postby mojo filters » Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:17 pm

TheWarmth wrote:Mojo: Have you gotten into Cavern of Anti-Matter? I'm really into both of their albums.


I've heard of them (probably here!) but I've not actually heard them, to the best of my knowledge. Thanks for the recommendation - I'll check them out and report back my thoughts.

What's the best way of auditioning their music? I don't use Spotify much, just because it's a real hassle to connect it up to a reasonable hifi system of some type.
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Postby TheWarmth » Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:44 pm

You could try Soundcloud, but you'll only get random tracks:

https://soundcloud.com/cavern-of-anti-matter

I highly recommend both of their albums.
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby angelsighs » Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:45 pm

nice long and thought provoking post there mojo filters.
I don't want it to sound like I'm too against the motorik thing. I think it can work, and particularly in a live setting it can really do the business. but it's a bit of a cliché now. I thought 'psychedelic' music was meant to be free and experimental?

I saw Cavern of Anti Matter at the psych fest and they left me cold. each to their own, obviously.
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Postby olan » Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:10 pm

angelsighs wrote:nice long and thought provoking post there mojo filters.
I don't want it to sound like I'm too against the motorik thing. I think it can work, and particularly in a live setting it can really do the business. but it's a bit of a cliché now. I thought 'psychedelic' music was meant to be free and experimental?

I saw Cavern of Anti Matter at the psych fest and they left me cold. each to their own, obviously.


I am afraid that there is far too much dross floating about describing itself as psych. I really enjoyed COAM at LPF last year, but the net curtains in place of light show and absence of sufficient PA meant that the gig lacked impact.

As for the Krautrock thing, COAM and Minami Deutsche are two good examples of bands doing something new and fresh.
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby TheWarmth » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:31 pm

My LP arrived yesterday, but naturally, no download code. I'll play it soon and report back. Packaging is nice with gold foil treatment.
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Postby TheWarmth » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:59 pm

I was able to give this one spin last night and really enjoyed it. Sounded great on my turntable. Trippy guitars courtesy of J are very cool. Definitely a must own for any Spiritualized/Spaceman fan.
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Postby Laz69 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:06 pm

TheWarmth wrote:My LP arrived yesterday, but naturally, no download code. I'll play it soon and report back. Packaging is nice with gold foil treatment.


I bought the digital release so, y'know, if yer needin'...
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Postby Martin L » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:17 pm

Love the Föllakzoid sound....is Jason to be heard?
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Postby tav falco » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:55 pm

TheWarmth wrote:My LP arrived yesterday, but naturally, no download code. I'll play it soon and report back. Packaging is nice with gold foil treatment.



i mailed sacred bones today on the off chance and they replied pretty much instantly with a dropbox link
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Postby simonkeeping » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:44 am

Anyone heard this yet? Very excited to hear how this came out
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Postby niamhm » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:47 pm

simonkeeping wrote:Anyone heard this yet? Very excited to hear how this came out


Pretty good I think, you can hear it here,https://follakzoid.bandcamp.com/album/london-sessions , Some cool touches from Jason, definitely complimenting the original ideas in sympathetic manner.
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Postby toomilk » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:41 pm

It's sitting on my porch and I'm 100 miles away! :oops: :oops: :oops:

Can't wait to put it on when I'm back.
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Postby spzretent » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:03 pm

Just got mine. A full 5 days after Runcible's arrived. Boy was i scared.
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Postby TheWarmth » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:00 pm

It strikes me as absolutely insane that people would be willing to spend so much just for the gold vinyl/alternate sleeve. I guess there are always hardcore collectors out there and it shouldn't surprise me. In addition, I can't imagine it retaining that value over time. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Postby spzretent » Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:25 pm

I agree about the insanity of the sale which is why I posted that link.
Having said that I don't think I would sell mine for that.
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Postby veiko » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:56 am

mojo filters wrote:I'd love to hear some current artists combining flavours of diverse genres such as folk and other acoustic music, coherently in with electronica of all varieties. I don't need to hear any more clichéd psychedelic guitar riffs, played over some generic techno-esque backing of 4/4 beats on 808 kick drums, 303 basslines and predictably-filtered synthesizers!


I'm not sure if anything at all can satisfy you ever, but try this. Not the first song though:

https://soundcloud.com/eeter-244995194
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby veiko » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:06 am

Overall fantastic release. Would be nice to know for how long the session actually went. Lets hope that the pearls are given out on vinyl, but who knows what else mindblowing they might have created during those sessions. It's like an neverending hope to hear the full 20 minutes version of "This little life of mine" from "Amazing grace".
Even if it says 45, i did play it also as 33 and nothing wrong with that either, heh. Marvelous release. I hope Jase got paid :wink:
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Re: London Sessions: Föllakzoid feat. J. Spaceman

Postby veiko » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:17 am

Fantastic fuel for motorized music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ALkAJAXzo

Hard to beat this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbaOgKIUWXU

So... whatever Föllakzoid is doing is fine. Support.
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