The answers. Not as detailed this time but I know Pete is busy at the mo. I think the nature of the (non) working relationship is pretty apparent in what he says here.
1. Why weren't 'The World is Dying' and the 7-minute + 'Just to See You Smile (Honey Part II)' (Both from the 'Hypnotized' EP) included on Recurring? Surely the latter could have/should have replaced the instrumental, or even 'The orchestral mix' (as it's listed) and 'The World is Dying' would fit nicely between 'I Love You' and 'Set Me Free'.
oh the possibilities........... I guess we liked to give value. our fans were loyal + we tried to reciprocate. just that.
Its like - how should Smile be sequenced - there's no right answer tho' splittin' across two sides was obviously summit worthy of Spinal Tap & part of my quitting + dissolving Spacemen 3.
2. Just why is the Dedicated issue of Recurring (ZD74917) so completely different to the UK (CD) issue (Fire CD23)? Amongst other things, I've always found it bizarre that 'Drive/Feel So Sad' was swapped for 'Feel So Sad (reprise)' that the full version of 'Set me Free' was missing; that 'Big City' on the LP was shorter than on the single.
dunno; different markets asked for different discs. When Tomm Hits had been released here already on sniffin' rock.
Set me free (reprise) is my prefered track.
vinyl lengths were a question too.
dunno about Jason's tracks - guess similar reasons
A&R men like to feel involved when writing big cheques.........
Most of the tracks on the Dedicated version are edits or remixes unavailable elsewhere. Who compiled these (the tracklisting) and who did the mixing? I ask this because personally, I'm pretty sure the credits on the Dedicated issue are just a replica of the credits on the Fire version, and are incorrect.
Anjali Dutt did Jasons stuff he did'nt do. I did all my trax + the covers.
3. Why have only Jason's demos found their way into the trading/collecting community? The demos I have (These Blues, Drive/Feel So Sad, Feelin' just Fine, Sometimes, Billy Whizz/Blue 1, Feel So Sad, Feelin' just Fine) are VERY different to the versions on both versions of 'Recurring' but it's pretty obvious that these demos were remixed and enhanced (or, in the case of 'Drive/Feel So Sad' edited down and radically remixed - the presence of the bass on this track was totally lost/mixed out of the final mix). Who made the decision to keep 'These Blues' off Recurring? And were Anjali Dutt and Sarah Beingham solely responsible for remixing Jason's 'side' of Recurring? If so, why?
4. The alterate versions of 'Feelin' just Fine'. I've spoken about this with Mark (Runcible) and he said that there were differences. Having played them simultaneously (like the Flaming Lips 'Zaireeka') I cannot, for the life of me, find any noticeable difference, aside from Track 12 (UK FIRE CD) being 3 seconds longer than the 'Alternative mix'. Am I missing something?
ditto - dunno. ask Jason. I know little about his side. truly. i was phasing myself out gently by then.
5. Did Pete know of, or hear, Jason's unreleased tracks (Harmony and Codeine, and one more, whose title is unknown to me, were all recorded in the studio) from all versions of Recurring? These are the Holy Grail for me, and I'm praying that they show up on the alledgedly imminent re-release of Recurring (personally, I don't think Recurring will be released again at all).
Codeine (a la Buffy St Marie) didn't exist. that's a Spectrum out-take from the covers lp.
Harmony - never heard of it - alt title? rough title - ditto Codeine. common practice.
6. Oh, yeah, there's another Holy Grail - the edited and/or deliberately fucked up (it depends on who you talk to)
hunh ? yeah I love to deliberately fuck up stuff before i release it . my forte perhaps ? gimme a break..........dumb question.
tracks on Sonic's 'side' - like 'Set me Free/I've got the key' (which was faded out prematurely on release apparently, it should have an absolutely massive guitar driven conclusion) and I think (stress here: I THINK) 'Big City' and 'I Love You' did not end up on the LP in the way that Sonic wanted.
none of above is true to my memory .
the long set me free fades, but doesn't get any much wilder .
I love you - is how intended - tho' the v. diff remix was removed from big city remix 12" on jason's insistance that his remix of drive had to be on for financial + 'fair' reasons. anyone knowing the I love you remix knows how sad this is. it will surface on a future comp of all single tracks from late period. It's pretty much all how it was meant to be. Perhaps wrong mixes were used - but only I would probably notice.
7. From what I understand - apart from tracks released before Recurring (e.g. 'When Tomorrow Hits', 'Just to See you Smile (Honey Part II)' there was no Pierce/Kember collaboration AT ALL on Recurring. True?
theres no collab on those tracks. but Jason plays on all my trax/side pretty much. I play on none of his -well documented before .
8. Did Jason just present Sonic with his (Jason's) side of Recurring, and basically said, do what the fuck you want with it? (that would explain the remixing credits (I doubt that Jason would delegate that level of responsibility, bearing in mind his control freakery).
no, he did that stuff w/anjali. i played no part.. I was offered to play on Jason's tracks, but my parts/pastiches were already there. Even copies of my specific vocal effects etc.
Jason might be a mild control freak, as in his i/views because he is unsure of himself & his work in my opinion -and only that .
apologies for brevity.
life goes on + all that..........
I sent Pete 2 emails on this, and only just got this reply. Couple of repeated subjects but I felt it worth adding everything.
1. Who actually chose the finished tracklist for the CD version of Recurring, and why were the tracks so completely different ('Big City' edited, completely different running order, one misnamed track, two reprise tracks missing) on the BMG European release of Recurring [was that solely due to Jason and the band signing with BMG?]?
I think those things -god, what was the misnamed track? were probably from memory down to Gerald.
I think I did the tracklisting for "my side" - but Gerald Palmer our manager controlled it definitively + i vaguely remember him doing what he thought he should, regardless, more + more. to be fair, It was probably in frustration. I know it was a mess at that time .
2. Did anyone notice that the 'Feelin' Just Fine' (remix) is identical to the same track earlier on in the LP?
yes - I did. Everyone'll say sour grapes, but it had in reality gotten so silly from certain parties that split sides became possible + equally, if I wrote 5 and 1/3 song.. Jason would find a way to expand his 4 songs to 5 and 1/3
If I had a reprise or split track, so did he. One of the most annoying things was that Jason would take many of my sounds, ideas & methods and use them trying to pass them off as his own. My final row where I could feel angry enough to punch at him was when he took an old lyric of mine and used it as his own. upon my demanding to know why etc., Jason told me to "prove it". I had no intention of doing any such timewasting.........
3. Why were two remixes of 'Big City' issued? Was that due to Sonic's dissatisfaction with 'Drive'?
no - a remix was always planned - tho' originally I love you remix was the b side, until Jason's equal opportunnity board presented the 'wonderful' Drive Remix................I faded 2 1/2 plus minutes off it at the cut. without anyone noticing............
I asked the engineer at the cut for his opinion & he said he thought it should be faded.. Normally I'd consider that desicration, but in that instance it was a blessing IMO
4. My understanding is that all the tracks were written - with the exceptions of the 'When Tomorrow Hits' (cover) 'Hypnotized' 'Just to See You Smile' 'Sometimes'/'I Love You' (given away on a flexi disk with a magazine) completely separately. Did either Sonic Boom/Spiritualized hear each other's sides prior to release?
oh yes. of course. they play on 'my' tracks. i wrote JTSYS solo.
sometimes/hypno were solo by jason in the most bleak of terms . Dont forget Will + Johnny + Richard Formby all played their parts, and Refoy to some extent, but the writing was done seperately for all the above.
5. Does Pete have access to the recording sessions for 'Recurring'?
no . I believe Gerald would have those tapes.
6. Neither Sonic nor Jason seemed happy with 'their side'. Given the choice, how would Sonic have arranged the LP?
jeesus - in many ways...............................I didn't want a split. Jason's actions were very wily + he had obviously made decisions long before he told me. i would've mixed it up more I guess. it would've been more homogenous if Jason wasn't trying to prove a point (that he could do it without me - though, anything can be copied to a level, theres a certain something that never gets properly undrerstood) Contrary to opinions of some, I was the first to know Jason was capable of great stuff if he wanted.
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