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There was that shop in Camden High St w/the spiral staircase in the middle, just before the lock if you were headed to the market, which was good. . You are talking about Rhythm. I agree with all your other suggestions but completely object to this one. I lived in Camden for a while and would say t...

Forget any contact with the band through this or any other site. Jason has been one of the most reserved musicians for years and years. He'll chat to you at gigs but as for anything else... ...not a chance.

Simple Minds - Sons and Fascination/Sister Feelings Call

(vague attempt at humour whilst being serious)

It was only the CD I assisted the distribution of - the LP was only ever mail order til a few copies appeared in shops. It was never distributed.

I am guilty of most of what was written here. When I ran a mail order outlet I knew of the impending release. I told a friend who worked at Caroline, an importer, and he said he wanted to be able to sell it to his customers as opposed to the album being just available through Dedicated mail order. S...

Incidentally, Black Moses, featuring ex-Hypnotics and ex-Penthouses, are playing the Windmill in Brixton. Should be good. Maybe they'll venture further north than the M25 this year... I heard some Black Moses demos which were superb. Very heavy, very Hypnotics (although I beleive Hypnotics guitaris...

Throwing my lot in here. Sister Ray were a pair of twats when they ran a market stall in Camden Lock in the mid 80s - arrogant yet cheap enough for me to keep buying. Now they're a whole bunch of twats. That shop is horrible - the smug attitude of the staff has put me off and I avoid it if I'm in Lo...

There is a 12" Feel So Sad featuring what I think you refer to, as well as another excellent version.

There is also a Medication 12" which contains a majestic rendition recorded for the John Peel show.

Both records are wonderful.

My work has a facility where you can donate some of your wages to the relief fund. Not only that, my employers will match the amount we give. Pretty decent I reckon. I think many places are doing the same. All we can do is encrourage everyone to do the same. There can't be much anyone can say to exp...

Melmoth wrote:Well,the first track must be Sunday Morning by Velvet Underground....

Doh! You beat me to it by mere seconds!

Sounds an obvious choice but the incredible Sunday morning nature of the Velvet Underground's 'Sunday Morning' cannot be beaten. Personally I regard the Stones 'Exile on Main Street' the best Sunday morning album ever made. As a good friend of mine once said 'the whole thing just sounds like it was ...

Not forgetting Dr. Strangely Strange... also kind of... odd.

Right - and Beefheart didn't use drugs either. But a lot of stuff is pretty tripped out.

PK & WTD? Now I remember why I abhor these sites - this one being particularly corporate ................ Now, wait just a fucking minute. I (as a long-time member, rather than any kind of representative) resent that. There is very little that is corporate about this discussion forum at all (wha...

Bush of Ghosts. Oh yes indeed - a time when Eno and Byrne could do no wrong. I'm also a huge fan of Byrne's Catherine Wheel album. Some very trippy moments on that. There was a film on Channel 4 I think with a collage of films interspersed with the band live screened in about 1982. A version of 'My ...

PSYCHEDELIC - 'producing distorted sensory perceptions and feelings or altered states of awareness or sometimes resembling psychosis'. A word constantly over-used and not understood in its true meaning. Simple Minds in whatever 'wacky' 80's dance guise can never be accurately described as such. Sur...

Its gotta be the original Spacemen 3 version of These Blues. Everyone wants to hear a clean version of that.

Runcible, you are correct, the long version of I Travel, Love song, the remix of Sweat in Bullets, in fact all those early Virgin singles and the Sons and Fascination and Sisters Feelings Call albums are good (so is most of New Gold Dream too) but what I didn't want to encourage is anybody standing...

whoa! and you people get on my ass for spitting vile at other people. but you have to admit runci, finding one or two gems from artists like simple minds is like picking the peanuts out of the poop. why bother. but i will, i am very curious to hear their "psychedelic" tune. xxxshonnxxx Th...

LOLOLOL. Runcible you kid me, psychedelic? Have you ever took a trip?? Or have you got your your shitey 80's record collection on eBay again? Simple Minds I don't fuckin' believe you next you'll be saying Duran Duran wrote some intelligent lyrics reflecting the problems of the middle classes surviv...

But stay away from the scottish band equilivent of a sexually transmitted desease, Simple Minds :o I'll stick my neck out here. Simple Minds made some genuinely remarkable music in 1981. Some of the songs from 'Sons and Fascination' and 'Sister Feelings Call' are really fantastic. Theme For Great C...

Speaking of forgetting... What about the double Brian Jonestown Massacre CD compilation? Not all new stuff but an incredibly enjoyable listen without a dull moment at any point (and a tip of the hat to Mr K for leaving that at my place recently). haven't heard about that one. who put it out? is it ...

...but without Brian Gregory! He left donkeys years ago. No idea what happened to him - anyone know?

5) Mercury Rev, Clapham Grand, summer 92 They smashed up a piano at the end and i took a couple of keys home with me, dunno where they are now. I was at that gig. It was incredible. Only thing is they smashed up the piano at the START of the set before they'd played anything! A remarkable introduct...

I've heard quite a bit of Suntan and its all been very good. Slightly shoegazey but with a harder edge.

Good call Hedspace!

A great idea but I hate to destroy the fun - its actually nonsense. Any quiz that plays Soul 1 and says it is Starship requires adjustment. Up until that point I was enjoying myself.

The Heads intend to release a new album next year. As I've heard the demos its all I need to know; 2005's album of the year for me is already confirmed.

What about the best gigs you've seen this year? I haven't seen that many so most are memorable as good nights out but here they are: Spiritualized, Met Uni, Leeds - Pretty decent but with a distinct lull in the middle. Brian Jonestown Massacre, Leeds Josephs Well - Appalling drunkenness and the wors...

Speaking of forgetting...

What about the double Brian Jonestown Massacre CD compilation? Not all new stuff but an incredibly enjoyable listen without a dull moment at any point (and a tip of the hat to Mr K for leaving that at my place recently).

Well its the big FOUR-O next year for Pete and Jase. You can celebrate that one.

Been thinking about this... Genuinely 2004 recordings unfortunately only rate these: The Quarter After - Unremastered Preview album. Sublime Byrds/Beatles 60s jangly psych/pop pastiche. Bloemfontein - The Longer Now. The last word in ambient space drone. The Spacemen 3 show from Germany 1989 must ra...

Isn't that meant to be on the Christmas thread?

The Spacemen book (which I don't have to hand) lists pretty much everything they used in the opening pages.

if you and runcible "don't like me" then fuck off and don't repy. jesus, it's that easy. Er... not really about that. It was you replying is such vicious tones to so many others that brought the subject to the surface. You're right, it is that easy - so how come you can't do it? And you h...

What spzretent is pointing out is obvious to me. You, i.e. beautiful noise, are very quick to hurl criticism at people if they say things you disagree with, but you're equally critical, rude too, if someone (myself for example) does the same. Its called hypocrisy. I'm sure this post will result in a...

I got a nice comment plus some picture credits and have even been quoted on a couple of occasions. Erik did talk to a lot of people.

I'll be raising a glass to all 3 of you - great news. I had been wondering how that situation was coming along!

I'm with you mh - a great band who deserve the respect they now command. On a final note from Pete he did send me a very short message that read: I was thinking about what we were discussing about the 'multi-faceted' truth of Erik's Book, and I remembered a nice quote from Marlene Dietrich's directo...

Not often that I really leap in like this but what the fuck is your problem moodys? I've read several of your posts and each is drowned in ignorant and masterfully bigoted prowess. Many are as stunned that so many Americans could have voted for Bush, but a shitload didn't, and that's rather signific...

It's started already mate - Will and Pete's comments are on the forum. Just got my copy yesterday. Initial skim looked very interesting. Nice to see so many familiar bits of artwork given exposure. Yet to get to the nitty gritty core of the thing. I'm sure many reactions will begin to show up here s...

...And back to Pete: "I have to say, I donâ€™t remember what my comments to you were, but this seems like as accurate a depiction as any. In many ways Will was the genius of the latter Spacemen 3. Yeah - we know who got the credit, but in reality he was a much more pivotal figure than is realis...

I haven't received my copy yet but look forward to it. On the other hand I've exchanged plenty of correspondence with Pete K on the book recently. In essence it was a lot easier for Jason to refuse to take part - he can criticise and distance himself from the project. At least the others took time t...

rubyrings: I read all that shite somewhere before. And its still shite, just elongated.

I'd definitely go with Bowie. Not quite sure how I managed to miss him to be honest. Many other worthy contenders - Neil Young is a genius, no doubt. I just never saw him as a stadium rocker although he did some big gigs. Again... This is meant to be a forum for suggestion. I'm geuinely interested t...

We are all entitled to our tastes of course. Most think my own listening choices are horrible and that's fine. I bought Purple Rain (when it came out - my GOD!) as I wondered what all the fuss was about. I'm still wondering. And I can see little of what I'd consider important to today's quality musi...

Good suggestions all round and even some I'd agree with. The point of starting this was to get people to add names - my list wasn't the be all and end all - I wanted to hear other suggestions. These Prince fans get kind of touchy though. No one will ever convince me he made anything other than bilge...

Presley and Dylan are big shouts, sure, I'm not that into their music. Never thought of Neil Young on that scale, nor James Brown, or the Beach Boys. I suppose I'm thinking of consistent stadium filling, teeny screamer bands.

Oasis? Come on... Prince? Good grief. Etc: Guns n' Roses.

After the recent thread on whether strange music can be decent I've accelerated into a topic I'd planned to write about here. How many bands can you think of who have sold really HUGE quantities and are really good? Or that have made music I really like. The zillion sellers, the monster 60,000 crowd...

Horroflick - I think you've missed the point by a mile. All of us here are opiniated about our music. Where its different is when a band makes music they want to instead of music to simply make money. I gasp at how shit popular music is, at how few quality bands are popular (a new thread is coming f...

Sprawl: Delighted you are checking out the Dub Organiser. I listened to a lot of his stuff this weekend. Marvellous in ever area. Horrorflick: After reading your critique I decided to jetison all the music I own that has not 'blown off the charts'. After all chart music is where the quality is at an...

Don't get me wrong, USA has NO monopoly when it comes to the idiocy of its population. We all have the leaders we deserve. Very sad to say that this statement sums the entire situation up in terms of democracy better than anything anyone has said. I wouldn't go as far as to say that this is true in...

Sprawl: Normally I avoid compilations but in reggae's case they can be real gems. I would recommend very, VERY highly 'Scratch and Company: The Upsetters Chapter 1' on Clocktower as a first dip in the delights on offer. It has a blue cover with a collage of Perry pictures in the shape of Africa. A t...

Hats off to Mr Saxon for that wordy reply earlier. Can't disagree with any of it.

There was a programme on BBC2 in the UK last night - 'The Power of Nightmares'. It showed Bush and the neo-conservatives for what they are - liars and scare mongers. It revealed that Al-Quaeda doesn't really exist - the term was invented by the US government to isolate terrorists they felt were a th...

Thanks Runcible and Bza for the Perry tip - people on this messageboard don't tend to rave about stuff that's rubbish so I'll give him a go. One thing though - a lot of journalists have implied that the whole 'zany' exterior is a front and actually Lee Perry's a pretty canny and perfectly healthy b...

I know nothing about Lee Perry - those interviews he always did with the British press put me off - it was like a student having a go at being zany, stereotyped kerrazee stuff, mentions of chickens and 'I'm a hatstand'. His music'd better be good after all that. Is Oneida the Japanese band that was...

Has to be either Deportivo at home in the Champions League, wonderful performance, or Milan away same season...best example ever of fan/team interaction... OOPS.... Wrong site....... PS... Thats European footy Jig.....' who are ya ' !! You're from Leeds then? Blimey, we need all the help we can get...

Most of Oneida's stuff is odd. Impossible to categorise too. Psychedelic? Yes. Quirky? Yes. Demented? Yes. And they're influenced by...? Er, that's impossible to say. I've just sat for a few minutes trying to think of a single band that are an obvious influence but I can't. Having said that a lot of...

It's hard to see how certain elements of the way music is first heard in the UK can ever exist in the same way again. He did a lot of good stuff for so many bands. I feel gutted to be honest.

twentysixdollars wrote:
So, the New York Dolls anyone?

Fuck yeah - they wouldn't have lasted five minutes in Damascus without being oppressed.

It's sad alright. One of the more interesting labels of its kind, and I believe Greg was a sweet guy too.

BTW Frankie - you guys coming back to the UK? We're ready for your next lesson in how to swear in a Yorkshire accent when you play in Leeds...

G - that last post comes across much better, apart from the insults handed out to a few. The reason is simple - you haven't gone for the anti-US stance as quickly as before (now going for 'the west' in general). Its SO easy to just say 'fuck the USA' but there has to be more substance than that for ...

why don't you print a link for the whole thread, that way people reading out-of-context one liners like those you mentioned can see the pages and pages of debate surrounding them. Granted: http://www.spiritualized.com/message/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=955&forum=4&start=105 Havi...

Yeah...I remember the 'death-threat'. I said, in the face of people accusing me of threatening sprzent, a sarcastic comment about how I would fly all the way over to america just to kick his arse...something to do with me asking which part of detroit he's from, as that's where my ex came from, and ...

The problem, Mr G, is that at one time you issued a death threat on this board and, as far as I am aware, remain the only one to have done so. You tried to turn it into a joke but it kind of startled me at the time. You also invited a pretty rabid type in the form of Sayfudin here to argue with a fe...

Yeah I was there. It was EAR with Stereolab playing as 'Soop'. I actually went to 2 gigs that night. Watched Stereolab play electronic EAR type stuff with Krautrock stuff at the end. Then I went and saw an abominable Butthole Surfers set at the Forum later. Alongside Primal Scream (that George Clint...

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Gigs of 2004

Genuinely MASSIVE bands that actually made decent music.