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Re: Slowdive

Post by TheWarmth » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:49 pm

I don't understand why they're doing these shows prior to the release of the album. I highly doubt they'll get it out by late March. So, they're doing a handful of UK shows and then a handful of North American dates ... and then releasing the album ... and THEN doing a full blown world tour to support the album? Seems really strange to me.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by olan » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:06 pm

TheWarmth wrote:I don't understand why they're doing these shows prior to the release of the album. I highly doubt they'll get it out by late March. So, they're doing a handful of UK shows and then a handful of North American dates ... and then releasing the album ... and THEN doing a full blown world tour to support the album? Seems really strange to me.
Possibly to record a few live tracks for b-sides or a Live LP. Maybe shoot a bit of footage for videos and generate a bit of buzz and YouTube footage to use to sell the big dates. Also, since Mogwai are recording and touring, Minor Victories and other solo projects are on the back burner. By playing the odd gig they earn few quid in fees to cover their some of the upfront production costs for later in the year which can't hurt. Cheaper than renting a rehearsal room if you think about it.....

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Re: Slowdive

Post by angelsighs » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:33 am

hmm i reckon the only one i could feasibly make is the Liverpool one.. however it's a bit short notice and it may be tricky at work..
pretty cool that they are doing some some small club dates. "old and new material" ? :)

I agree with Olan- I am sure these are small dates just to get warmed up again, try out some new material, create a little buzz. I am sure a full tour will follow when the album comes out. therefore I'm not too gutted if I have to pass this time (honestly :evil: )

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Re: Slowdive

Post by TheWarmth » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:32 pm

I shouldn't complain. I'm just anxious to get news on a new album by a band I consider a heavy-hitter, and I've been waiting on the Slowdive announcement ever since the re-formation tour ended.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by burningwheel » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:32 pm

I don't see a world tour after the album drops myself
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Re: Slowdive

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Re: Slowdive

Post by angelsighs » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:13 pm

this is a stroke of luck for me. was quite gutted about missing out but Oxford is only a short drive down the motorway.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by MODLAB » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:01 pm

I will go too. I really look forward hearing the new songs live and not in festival setting.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by angelsighs » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:02 pm

Yeah same. Will be good to hear new songs too.

That's if I manage to get a ticket. I'm working remotely on Friday so might be tricky.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by olan » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:21 am

https://slowdive.bandcamp.com/album/slowdive

New album is called 'Slowdive'.

A second track 'Sugar for the Pill' is available to stream. Album release date is May 5th. Properly excited about this and the gig in Liverpool tonight. Hopefully, there will be some interesting merch.....

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Re: Slowdive

Post by sm-iom » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:31 am

Flash ticket sale at 1pm today for London gig tomorrow as well (see their Twitter feed)

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Re: Slowdive

Post by clewsr » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:55 am

olan wrote:https://slowdive.bandcamp.com/album/slowdive

New album is called 'Slowdive'.

A second track 'Sugar for the Pill' is available to stream. Album release date is May 5th. Properly excited about this and the gig in Liverpool tonight. Hopefully, there will be some interesting merch.....

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Hopefully see you there Olan!

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Re: Slowdive

Post by olan » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:11 am

clewsr wrote:
olan wrote:https://slowdive.bandcamp.com/album/slowdive

New album is called 'Slowdive'.

A second track 'Sugar for the Pill' is available to stream. Album release date is May 5th. Properly excited about this and the gig in Liverpool tonight. Hopefully, there will be some interesting merch.....

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Hopefully see you there Olan!
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Re: Slowdive

Post by MODLAB » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:14 am

The set list looks amazing. Have fun!!!
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Re: Slowdive

Post by olan » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:23 am

MODLAB wrote:The set list looks amazing. Have fun!!!
Feck off Mark! :D I'm trying desperately not to spoil the surprise and you're not helping. :wink:

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Re: Slowdive

Post by MODLAB » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:24 am

olan wrote:
MODLAB wrote:The set list looks amazing. Have fun!!!
Feck off Mark! :D I'm trying desperately not to spoil the surprise and you're not helping. :wink:
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Re: Slowdive

Post by angelsighs » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:13 pm

will have to wait until tonight to listen to the new song... cannae wait!

new album artwork is pretty cool too.

is the tracklisting not out there yet?

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Re: Slowdive

Post by TheWarmth » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:07 pm

http://pitchfork.com/news/70870-slowdiv ... deo-watch/

The new track is sublime. Stunning.

The bundle for $50 seems like a decent deal to me (t-shirt, ltd. silver vinyl, cd, slipmat and enamel badges):

https://www.secretlystore.com/slowdive-slowdive

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Re: Slowdive

Post by TheWarmth » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:21 pm

angelsighs wrote:will have to wait until tonight to listen to the new song... cannae wait!

new album artwork is pretty cool too.

is the tracklisting not out there yet?
01 Slomo
02 Star Roving
03 Don’t Know Why
04 Sugar for the Pill
05 Everyone Knows
06 No Longer Making Times
07 Go Get It
08 Falling Ashes

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Re: Slowdive

Post by MODLAB » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:27 pm

I really like the progression they made after 20> years. The song is really really good. This seems to be an amazing year in music. I hope the almighty SPZ can keep it going.


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Re: Slowdive

Post by natty » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:29 pm

Surprise show at The Garage tomorrow night.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by burningwheel » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:26 am

Only 8 songs though...
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Re: Slowdive

Post by TheWarmth » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:10 pm

8 songs for Slowdive will probably clock in somewhere between 45 and 55 minutes. Seems right to me. Hopefully, we'll get some extra tracks here and there. They really ought to put out that live album they teased, too.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by angelsighs » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:13 pm

If 8 tracks is good enough for Television and Led Zep, it's good enough for Slowdive!
sure will still be an album of standard length. might be a nice 10 minuter in there.

Sugar For The Pill is pretty good. it flirts with blandness but manages to pull it back.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by MODLAB » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:15 pm

Facebook webcast is on. New songs sound great.


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Re: Slowdive

Post by olan » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:37 pm

Enjoyed the stream a lot. Same set as Liverpool, new fuck up though. Nice to see them back and clearly enjoying playing as much as we enjoyed listening to it.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by sunray » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:16 pm

angelsighs wrote: Sugar For The Pill is pretty good. it flirts with blandness but manages to pull it back.
Unfortunately i'll have to disagree, it's just really fucking bland. Sounds like some naff mid-80s 'serious' pop like Black or The Blue Nile.
I did like Star Roving though.
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Re: Slowdive

Post by niamhm » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:07 pm

Cheap shot at The Blue Nile :shock: made two of the 80`s finest albums IMO, Hats in particular would make it into an all-time top 20 albums for me, sublime.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by olan » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:17 pm

niamhm wrote:Cheap shot at The Blue Nile :shock: made two of the 80`s finest albums IMO, Hats in particular would make it into an all-time top 20 albums for me, sublime.
Absolutely! Nowt wrong with The Blue Nile Joycey :roll: . Thanks for reminding that I haven't listened to them for ages though. I'll give Hats a spin later on tonight.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by scoz » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:50 pm

I remember several years ago telling someone that I liked Slowdive but probably would find them overly twee now (then). after that listened to Just for a Day again and was surprised how wrong I was.

Really enjoyed the Liverpool show, that Slowdive guitar sound still sends shivers down my spine even more so live. Glad I saw them in their own right rather than at a festival too. I even liked the last couple from Ulrika Spacek, nice boys according to Neil did kind of feel sorry for them when one of 'em broke a string and the singer said he doesn't have the charisma to carry the silence.

You know sometimes a song/track catches you unawares and ends up making you cry Golden Hair did that to me on Tuesday night.

this is the third new track that they've been playing at their shows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlulF68u5f4

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Re: Slowdive

Post by angelsighs » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:45 pm

sunray wrote:
angelsighs wrote: Sugar For The Pill is pretty good. it flirts with blandness but manages to pull it back.
Unfortunately i'll have to disagree, it's just really fucking bland. Sounds like some naff mid-80s 'serious' pop like Black or The Blue Nile.
I did like Star Roving though.
a bit harsh. it is a little bland I guess, it's not exactly blowing my mind. but it's not bad and I think it will make sense in the context of the album.

are Black the band that did 'Wonderful Life'??

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Re: Slowdive

Post by James T » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:32 pm

So disappointed with the album. I know I shouldn't download a leak but I already pre-ordered and given my opinion of the first two track I think I was generous with my minimal disposable income. I love this band so much but this album is not grabbing me at all. It feels incredibly forced. I don't suppose they found it easy to tune back in after so long, which some of the interviews suggest anyway. I hope it will be a grower, but I just don't know. One thing i will say is that they will probably lend themselves well to the live arena.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by TheWarmth » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:00 pm

Interesting. A friend of mine downloaded it and is raving about it. I'll probably wind up hearing it soon.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by James T » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:10 pm

On second listen there are a couple of nice tracks, but still a big disappointment for me at least. Sounds too much like all these so-called nu-gaze acts to me. I'm a grumpy old (young) man though. I wish them well with it and I look forward to a tour, but I can't see me spinning this much.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by TheWarmth » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:44 pm

What bands are you referring to re: nu-gaze? Diiv? Beach House?

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Re: Slowdive

Post by spacemanrich » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:14 pm

Seems like a mixed review here. Some like it and some don't. Just have to wait and see what reviews they are before purchasing it. Beach House are great by the way.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by James T » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:24 pm

TheWarmth wrote:What bands are you referring to re: nu-gaze? Diiv? Beach House?
I couldn't even name them, just ones I hear in bars and some friends stereos. The XX and that jive. I listened to a beach house album once and thought it was ok. This album does have their producer though.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by cantona » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:41 pm

On my first listen and I like it. Star Roving sounds like a Brian Jonestown Massacre song.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by MODLAB » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:02 am

I'm really enjoying it. It has a nice feeling of all their stuff that they produced before and I believe it is a nice progression. I'm really happy they moved forward and in a good way.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by xtrmntr315 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:24 am

I know this is very cheeky but would be very grateful for a PM'ed link. I also pre-ordered. Dying to hear it.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by TheWarmth » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:19 pm

This album is great. I love the production, guitar tones, vocals and dynamics. Some of the songs have weird structures, which is cool. I do think they could have come up with a better closing song. The piano motif reminds me a lot of Radiohead's "Daydreaming" and the song just doesn't build like I want it to. Overall, very pleased, though.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by xtrmntr315 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:17 pm

Really loving it to. The only track that I struggle with is "Go Get It", the penultimate track. Something about Rachel's voice ion the chorus is jarring and decidedly not-Slowdive to me. I dig the last song but it too took some some. The rest is total bliss to me.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by TheWarmth » Mon May 01, 2017 3:37 am

xtrmntr315 wrote:The only track that I struggle with is "Go Get It", the penultimate track. Something about Rachel's voice ion the chorus is jarring and decidedly not-Slowdive to me.
A good friend of mine who is a big Slowdive fan said the same thing, but I don't hear anything jarring. I'm assuming you're talking about the "I want to see it / I want to feel it" bit, right?

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Re: Slowdive

Post by xtrmntr315 » Mon May 01, 2017 3:55 pm

Yes that bit. I am warming to the track overall but it is still the only place where the album dips for me. Falling Ashes, the last track, sounds more stunning the more i listen to it. I love the lyrics..."California/ I thought I saw ya...". Doesn't read like much but is devastatingly sad to me. God, I love this album.

The new Ride tracks...I dunno.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by TheWarmth » Mon May 01, 2017 4:03 pm

I'm definitely less enthusiastic about the new Ride tracks, with the exception of "Home Is A Feeling," which I think is glorious. I badly want to love their new album, but I'm guessing it's not going to blow me away. Fingers crossed, though.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by angelsighs » Tue May 02, 2017 1:18 pm

how does it compare to the 'MBV' album though?

from the tracks I've heard, it potentially seems that Ride's album might be the weakest comeback record of the big three shoegaze bands. even though they are actually my favourite of the bands. funny old world!

oh, and this made me chuckle. it seems you're not alone in referencing Black or the Blue Nile when talking about the new single. both are mentioned in this article! :)

http://www.popmatters.com/post/slowdive ... ng-steady/

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Re: Slowdive

Post by MODLAB » Tue May 02, 2017 8:43 pm

Lovely remix of 'Sugar For The Pill'.

https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/av ... pill-remix
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Re: Slowdive

Post by TheWarmth » Wed May 03, 2017 1:35 pm

That's a cool remix. I'm seeing them tonight. Psyched. Will report back.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by James T » Thu May 04, 2017 12:19 pm

I was way too negative in my original view on this. I can appreciate it for what it is, not unpleasant but still (imo) their weakest LP. I enjoy parts of it, and the weaker bits are perhaps just not for me, rather than being bad.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by TheWarmth » Thu May 04, 2017 4:02 pm

James T wrote:I was way too negative in my original view on this. I can appreciate it for what it is, not unpleasant but still (imo) their weakest LP. I enjoy parts of it, and the weaker bits are perhaps just not for me, rather than being bad.
I think this LP is a lot better than Just For A Day, on which I find every song kinda melds together in a stew of samey-ness. Not that JFAD doesn't have standout tracks, but IMO the new one is far better.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by James T » Thu May 04, 2017 8:38 pm

I love JFAD! I take your points though about it all merging to one in a way, but I also think maybe that is part of it's charm. Great chill-out LP.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by sunray » Sat May 06, 2017 1:37 pm

angelsighs wrote: oh, and this made me chuckle. it seems you're not alone in referencing Black or the Blue Nile when talking about the new single. both are mentioned in this article! :)

http://www.popmatters.com/post/slowdive ... ng-steady/
HA! Vindicated :lol:

It's a pretty good album, in fact the only song I don't like is the one mentioned above.
I've a weird relationship with Slowdive in that I love all the ep's but the albums left me cold so I was expecting to get bored early on with this but it held my interest all the way through. To my ears Go Get It bears more than a passing resemblance to Souvlaki Space Station, which is fine.
The only complaint I would have really is Neil Halstead's vocals. All but the last song would be greatly improved if it was solely Rachel on vocal duties. He should just shut the fuck up and concentrate on his footwear and then, I believe, the songs would soar.

Yeah it's looking like Ride are going to produce the weakest album of the lot :(
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Re: Slowdive

Post by olan » Sat May 06, 2017 3:37 pm

sunray wrote:
angelsighs wrote: oh, and this made me chuckle. it seems you're not alone in referencing Black or the Blue Nile when talking about the new single. both are mentioned in this article! :)

http://www.popmatters.com/post/slowdive ... ng-steady/
HA! Vindicated :lol:

It's a pretty good album, in fact the only song I don't like is the one mentioned above.
I've a weird relationship with Slowdive in that I love all the ep's but the albums left me cold so I was expecting to get bored early on with this but it held my interest all the way through. To my ears Go Get It bears more than a passing resemblance to Souvlaki Space Station, which is fine.
The only complaint I would have really is Neil Halstead's vocals. All but the last song would be greatly improved if it was solely Rachel on vocal duties. He should just shut the fuck up and concentrate on his footwear and then, I believe, the songs would soar.

Yeah it's looking like Ride are going to produce the weakest album of the lot :(
I have to agree with you about Halstead's vocals. In places, particularly on the opening track, he manages to sound like Fergal Sharkey! In my view this has the makings of a great ep, but as an LP is held down by a few weak tunes. I've not managed to get my head around Falling Ashes at all. It doesn't really seem to go anywhere.....

As for Ride, I made a mistake and listened to the new tunes on TIDAL. I'm completely unimpressed to say the very least. The only good thing I have to say about the new songs is they are much better than Robert Smith's efforts to completely murder 'Vapour Trail' using a weapons grade remix with deadly force. Utter shite...... :evil:

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Re: Slowdive

Post by angelsighs » Tue May 09, 2017 6:55 pm

played this for the first time last night (and playing it again as I type this) and this my first knee jerk reaction (I reserve the right to change my opinion entirely!!)

Slomo is a lovely atmospheric opener-reminded me of the Durutti Column a bit (high praise from me) where it flirts with being new agey whale music but still sounds great.
Star Roving is still a superb track, very muscular sounding for them (the drums sounded especially good through proper speakers)

some other tracks caught my ears a bit but it did sound a bit light and fluffy on first listen.

more Rachel G in the mix would be nice.

they are already talking about another album so this might just be them getting the wheels moving again

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Re: Slowdive

Post by MODLAB » Thu May 11, 2017 2:26 pm

Here is the bonus track from the Japanese release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZiBd1iGC3o


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Re: Slowdive

Post by natty » Sat May 13, 2017 8:39 am

Love the album, have had it on almost constant repeat this week.

The last two tracks are my favourites. I read that "Falling Ashes" is the direction they're heading in if they do another record, and that's fine by me.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by spacemanrich » Wed May 24, 2017 4:47 pm

Fantastic album considering the passage of time. Still has the Slowdive sound and one song in particular the guitars reminded me of Chapterhouse. Some of the vocals from Neil sounded like it could have come from one of his solo albums with that kind of range.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by Greeny » Thu May 25, 2017 11:54 am

Crikey, they popped those UK tour dates up a bit sneakily! Got myself a couple of balcony seats for the Roundhouse, to spare the old back!

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Re: Slowdive

Post by angelsighs » Sat May 27, 2017 12:39 pm

Have listened to the new album a fair few times now. It's solid and the production is nice and all that, but it's just not exciting me that much. Certainly respectable for a comeback LP but Star Roving is still the clear standout track as it's got a bit of zip to it (Fastdive??)

I'd agree that Falling Ashes doesn't really do much for me. It's a great idea in theory but doesn't really go anywhere.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by KingHarry » Sat May 27, 2017 10:58 pm

I'm seeing them in Leeds in October - nice symmetry as the only time I've seen them before was when they toured their first EP Slowdive in The Duchess of York Leeds in 1991. I loved this band completely at the time.
What material are they playing live - mix of old and new?

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Re: Slowdive

Post by TheWarmth » Sun May 28, 2017 2:59 am

They did four songs from the new album when I saw them earlier this month. The rest was an excellent selection from the rest of their catalog, with every release represented.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by jesus son » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:58 am

Great gig in Oxford last night. Nice to see Neil wearing a Spacemen t-shirt.

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Re: Slowdive

Post by angelsighs » Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:36 pm

jesus son wrote:Great gig in Oxford last night. Nice to see Neil wearing a Spacemen t-shirt.
I concur. Excellent gig if not quite up to the level of the London Forum shows (guitars could have been bit higher in the mix. Sound quality can lift a good gig to a great one)

They played Slomo which was nice and came across surprisingly well (always came across as more of a studio song). Golden Hair was epic and really carried me away.

Agree that it was nice to see Neil giving props to the Spacemen. Wonder if he realises the band won't be getting a penny from that t shirt though :/

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Re: Slowdive

Post by ericdbn » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:19 am

New tour dates announced! I have my eyes on the US dates in Madison and Chicago in November.

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