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New Ashcroft

Post by clewsr » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:00 pm

http://www.nme.com/news/richard-ashcroft/91718

Doesn't do it for me, but possibly not quite as bad as previous releases?

Credit to him though for daring to sound a bit political in the album write up.

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by Starfish » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:51 pm

Against my better judgement, I gave it a play.

Switched it off after 3 mins.

Dull.

Liam Gallagher likes it though, apparently. https://twitter.com/liamgallagher/statu ... 6117362688
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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by TheWarmth » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:54 pm

I will give it a listen out of morbid curiosity, but the LP title alone is unbearably bland: These People. Ugh. So boring.

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by clewsr » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:02 pm

blimey. Twitter is a strange place isn't it.

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by The Dr » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:58 pm

i think you accidently posted a link to a chvrches song
“You're not Dostoevsky,' said the citizeness

'Well, who knows, who knows,' he replied.

'Dostoevsky's dead,' said the citizeness, but somehow not very confidently.

'I protest!' Behemoth exclaimed hotly. 'Dostoevsky is immortal!”

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by mc » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:41 pm

Nah, a Chvrches song would actually be good.

Yeah, that was pretty dire. Not that I expect anything worthwhile from Dickie these days, but still :roll:

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by Aquarian-Time » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:01 am

Its Ashcroft, its beyond bland, it sucks. End of review

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by runcible » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:20 am

Aquarian-Time wrote:Its Ashcroft, its beyond bland, it sucks. End of review
:lol:

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by angelsighs » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:06 pm

I was all ready to defend this, as I think Ashcroft's solo career often gets a unjustifiably bad rap. however this is rather bad. very bland. It's now almost like he's challenging himself to come up with the dullest song titles and lyrics ever.

It makes you realise that Alone With Everybody actually wasn't that bad :D at least he had a good way with a chorus in those days.

One thing I will say- his voice still sounds great. That might actually be improving as he gets older.

So sad as he really was one of my musical heroes- one of the greatest frontmen. maybe that's the point- great singer, great frontman, but apart from a purple patch in the 90s, not that great a singer-songwriter.

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by TheWarmth » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:52 pm

I think a number of excellent Ashcroft songs came out of the Alone With Everybody period, including surprisingly great b-sides. It was a really promising start to his solo career. I was still a big fan and saw him play a small show at Double Door where he absolutely killed it. Then Human Conditions came out and I was totally baffled. I wanted so badly to like it, but the songs weren't there. It's been downhill ever since.

As for the new song, it's not available in the US. Fucking ridiculous. What a garbage way to promote a new album, by not allowing the entire U.S. to hear a note. So dumb. I tried to watch the video via Vevo and YouTube and neither worked. I guess my morbid curiosity of what I'm sure is a terrible song will go unfulfilled. No huge loss, I suppose.

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by The Dr » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:39 pm

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y8l47gl7g14ow ... 9.mp3?dl=0



i find it, in hindsight a very challenging piece, as the listener is challenged to listen to the end


all saints announced their comeback and new single- but you can't listen to it for a frew more weeks. interest lost...
“You're not Dostoevsky,' said the citizeness

'Well, who knows, who knows,' he replied.

'Dostoevsky's dead,' said the citizeness, but somehow not very confidently.

'I protest!' Behemoth exclaimed hotly. 'Dostoevsky is immortal!”

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by angelsighs » Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:46 am

yeah some great songs on Alone With Everybody- some weird and crap lyrics, and over production aside, I actually think it's a pretty solid album for what it is. which is kind of slick MOR indie pop. I thought it made sense for his solo work to sound quite different and anyone expecting A Storm In Heaven part 2 was in cloud cuckoo land.
I thought BJ Cole's pedal steel worked well with his voice too.
There's a B side called Leave Me High which is a good song as well.

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by spunder » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:42 am

angelsighs wrote: There's a B side called Leave Me High which is a good song as well.
B side for Money to Burn called 'XXYY', best thing he ever wrote. he rapidly went to shit after that.

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by mc » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:22 pm

I really can't resist a giggle at the new artwork:
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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by angelsighs » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:37 pm

spunder wrote: B side for Money to Burn called 'XXYY', best thing he ever wrote. he rapidly went to shit after that.
yeah that's a good one too! great pedal steel and quite dreamy sounding

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by The Dr » Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:29 pm

mc wrote:I really can't resist a giggle at the new artwork:
he seems to think that his music stinks...ever the man of the people, shooting from the hip
“You're not Dostoevsky,' said the citizeness

'Well, who knows, who knows,' he replied.

'Dostoevsky's dead,' said the citizeness, but somehow not very confidently.

'I protest!' Behemoth exclaimed hotly. 'Dostoevsky is immortal!”

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by The Dr » Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:32 pm

Richard Ashcroft will play:

Manchester, Albert Hall (May 14)
London, Roundhouse (May 16)


Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/richard-ashcrof ... PHRFH02.99
“You're not Dostoevsky,' said the citizeness

'Well, who knows, who knows,' he replied.

'Dostoevsky's dead,' said the citizeness, but somehow not very confidently.

'I protest!' Behemoth exclaimed hotly. 'Dostoevsky is immortal!”

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by spacemanrich » Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:46 pm

Ashcroft ?! Long forgotten. Haven't heard from him in years. Yeah, the artwork is funny. Only bought his first solo album, it's okay to say the least and never bothered with the rest of his stuff.

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by The Dr » Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:17 pm

“You're not Dostoevsky,' said the citizeness

'Well, who knows, who knows,' he replied.

'Dostoevsky's dead,' said the citizeness, but somehow not very confidently.

'I protest!' Behemoth exclaimed hotly. 'Dostoevsky is immortal!”

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by angelsighs » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:11 pm

just to throw a spanner in the works, and even it up.. the Black Submarine album wasn't much cop either, was it?

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by Stuart X.Hunter » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:25 am

Got to 01:38
Same tired old formula
The Lou Reed/Bowie looking picture off to the right didn't help
Neither did the branding style of his initials
Irrelevant now really...which is kind of a shame
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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by The Dr » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:48 pm

Stuart X.Hunter wrote: The Lou Reed/(rock n roll animal)looking picture off to the right didn't help

he did the same for the latest verve reunions- again, did not help
“You're not Dostoevsky,' said the citizeness

'Well, who knows, who knows,' he replied.

'Dostoevsky's dead,' said the citizeness, but somehow not very confidently.

'I protest!' Behemoth exclaimed hotly. 'Dostoevsky is immortal!”

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Re: New Ashcroft

Post by Stuart X.Hunter » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:41 pm

The Dr wrote:
he did the same for the latest verve reunions- again, did not help
Not blessed with imagination then...to think I was dumbstruck once seeing the Verve in a tent somewhere in Ayrshire God knows how many years ago...
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