Playing With Fire - Quietus article

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Playing With Fire - Quietus article

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Post by Ian » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:01 pm

Lovely final line from Pete. Really enjoyed that.
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Post by spzretent » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:07 pm

One of the best articles I have ever read on any Spacemen 3 LP.
Thanks for that link.
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Re: PLaying With Fire - Quietus article

Post by johnnyboy » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:37 pm

Cool article eh, thought it'd be enjoyed here.

The last part is def right on.....

“I could go a decade without listening to Spacemen 3, but when I hear that stuff I’m always psyched and I think to myself, Yeah, we fucking nailed it.”

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Post by mc » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:13 pm

It's great to see Jason contributing too - I get the impression he's become less reticent about discussing his past in recent years (e.g. his absence from Erik Morse's book etc.)

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Post by BzaInSpace » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:56 pm

I really enjoyed reading this - thanks John!

Like the best of reflective music criticism, it immediately made me want to listen to this record again.

Frustratingly, Spotify has absolutely no Spacemen 3 material other than 'Lord can you hear me', and only due to MGMT including it on a compilation. The legal shitstorm regarding Spacemen 3 recordings presumably the reason.

What a fucking shame that some of the greatest rock & roll music ever isn't even available for the casual listener to drop in and freak out with, other than through sub-standard youtube quality playback.
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Re: Playing With Fire - Quietus article

Post by bzfgt » Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:20 am

Great article! Sad to see Pete diss the Grateful Dead, though!

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Post by Feedback Forever » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:46 am

spzretent wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:07 pm
One of the best articles I have ever read on any Spacemen 3 LP.
Thanks for that link.
Yeah, great stuff!
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Re: Playing With Fire - Quietus article

Post by angelsighs » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:58 pm

agree that it's good to hear Jason talk about Spacemen 3 a bit more openly.

Playing With Fire is still the dogs bollocks. no one else was making music this minimalist and by turns it totally rocks as well as the really dreamy moments.

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Post by mojo filters » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:00 pm

angelsighs wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:58 pm
agree that it's good to hear Jason talk about Spacemen 3 a bit more openly.

Playing With Fire is still the dogs bollocks. no one else was making music this minimalist and by turns it totally rocks as well as the really dreamy moments.
Agreed, Jason previously always seemed to deflect whenever an interviewer tried to get him to talk about Spacemen 3. That's fine with me, as generally I want to hear more from him about both upcoming and the most recently released output.

I can quite understand him not wanting to revisit the history of the band which journalists always seem most interested in, ie drugs and conflict, as opposed to the actual music. Perhaps it was the latter subject matter that allowed him to open up comfortably here?

What's always puzzled me is Jason's extreme attachment to Walking With Jesus, as it turns up so predictably in live sets. Whilst I'm grateful he's made changes to the arrangement a little over the years, there's only so much interest I can muster for a dynamically rather flat I > IV > IV sus4 > IV chord strumming number - having heard it so many times now.

By contrast on the later leg of the Sweet Heart Sweet Light tour, it was amazing to see him get the acoustic guitar out for Come Down Easy. I hope Jason's similarly inspired to include another surprising treat, at some future gigs!

I agree there's a beautiful minimalism to Playing With Fire, potentially making it the band's most interesting album. However I have to admit whenever I'm drawn to playing some Spacemen 3, it's usually Perfect Prescription (or Forged Prescriptions these days) Recurring and Taking Drugs... that catch my attention first.
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Re: Playing With Fire - Quietus article

Post by TheWarmth » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:58 pm

Man, I would love it if Forged Prescriptions got a nice vinyl pressing.

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Post by natty » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:22 am

TheWarmth wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:58 pm
Man, I would love it if Forged Prescriptions got a nice vinyl pressing.
Me too, it seems like a hole in my collection.

Just not on Spageage.

The Perfect Prescription would benefit from a good remastering job as well, but as I understand it, PK considers FP to be that job done.

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Post by Laz69 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:53 am

I know someone has plans for this, but its taking some time...

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Re: Playing With Fire - Quietus article

Post by niamhm » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:16 am

natty wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:22 am
TheWarmth wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:58 pm
Man, I would love it if Forged Prescriptions got a nice vinyl pressing.
Me too, it seems like a hole in my collection.

Just not on Spageage.

The Perfect Prescription would benefit from a good remastering job as well, but as I understand it, PK considers FP to be that job done.
I would think that's where it would be if it was going to happen sadly, surprised they haven`t done it for this yrs RSD tbh, plumping for Live In Europe `89 instead I see, :( ps isn`t this thread in the wrong section? Just saying :|

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Post by angelsighs » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:43 pm

mojo filters wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:00 pm
angelsighs wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:58 pm
agree that it's good to hear Jason talk about Spacemen 3 a bit more openly.

Playing With Fire is still the dogs bollocks. no one else was making music this minimalist and by turns it totally rocks as well as the really dreamy moments.
I agree there's a beautiful minimalism to Playing With Fire, potentially making it the band's most interesting album. However I have to admit whenever I'm drawn to playing some Spacemen 3, it's usually Perfect Prescription (or Forged Prescriptions these days) Recurring and Taking Drugs... that catch my attention first.
Definitely. Some of the songs are merely a couple of chords, How Does It Feel is pretty much one chord isn't it? It's incredible how they carve such great music out of so little. It's also so impressive that they stuck with music that was so out of step with the music scene at the time.

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Re: Playing With Fire - Quietus article

Post by is » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:06 pm

It's a record you really have to listen to. Loud. Probably in a slight state of heightened consciousness. Ideally you'd have to clear a whole weekend. A day at least.

Consequently I haven't even thought of putting it on for about 25 years. It's just incompatible with my lifestyle.

Perhaps when I'm retired...

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