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Nice to see this in anyone's top anything listSpamuel L. Jackson wrote:44) The Doughnut In Granny's Greenhouse - Bonzo Dog Band
A great selection all round (what I know of it anyway)...why is this not available to buy on CD?!?!?!Spamuel L. Jackson wrote:60) Lick My Decals Off Baby - Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band
Cool, I can fit "The Stone Roses" in there now (I forgot it!).jack white wrote:you have gilded palace listed twice.
I really dunno, man. Dumb. The early 90's CD had already been deleted by the time I went Beefheart-nutz...my Sis found a copy of the LP for my 17th birthday, so I owe her my intro to "Decals". Cool to see another Bonzos fan in here!ekewebb wrote:why is this not available to buy on CD?!?!?!
Vanilla fudge - You Keep Me Hanging onWheres M-people? are you a Racialist?1. Back To Bedlam - James Blunt
2. These Streets - Paolo Nutini (proper)
3. X & Y - Coldplay
4. Undiscovered - James Morrison (if you think about it, this is a really poignant and deep title, because, he was, like, undiscovered before he made the album)
5. Life For Rent - Dido
6. Blue Is The Colour - The Beautiful South (my token golden oldie, takes me back to my wild teenage years)
7. Trouble - Ray LaMontagne
8. Corinne Bailey Rae - Corrine Bailey Rae (for a bit of soulful girly action)
9. ... (i'll have to stop there. i buy 3 CD's a year)
cheers, now i'm gonna go eat me some pringle
I probably overstated the self-pity factor a bit. It's more a mood that builds throughout the set and comes to a head on "There Was A Light" rather than a depressive sledgehammer to every track.jack white wrote:but i dont think it's fair to criticise the record or bell for being "pathetically" depressed. there is a strength to the sorrow. a beautiful hopelessness intwined to the record. the weakness is its strength.
correct me if im wrong, but werent you the one who referenced visiting townes van zandt if you needed your sorrowful kicks? well even if you werent, i find a similar vein in van zandts stuff. that there is a nobility to the despair.
i dont see a lack of fight in the music, i see a weakened spirit, and a weakened struggle. for all the sadness in iatc, i dont see the impending doom, the resignation that life is at its end. i see a document of a troubled life, a troubled time. how much of that is self inflicted, self pitying? i dont know, and i dont actually care for the solace i can find in it outweighs any of the complaints i might have.
Yep - this is a great album.jack white wrote:1: Icky Thump
InconsistencySpamuel L. Jackson wrote:Cool, I can fit "The Stone Roses" in there now (I forgot it!).jack white wrote:you have gilded palace listed twice.
Yes that is true so i thought i'd do a top ten of your top tens, elevens, twleves twenties, eighties etc etc. Even that was difficult so it's a top twenty. And managed to list only one album per artist/band.simonkeeping wrote:Back to business, compiling top tens is an almost impossible task!
Where do you even begin? The list is endless....
aye, all three are good, although i don't think there is any 'padding' on the Last Broadcast.angelsighs wrote:good call mate, a band who deserves more recognition round these parts. I prefer Lost Souls though. I'm also looking forward to the new one.eleKtroniK:musiK wrote: Doves ~ Last Broadcast (2002) Heavenly
* It just works~in it's entirety
I got that Jools Holland Cool Brittania DVD for a tenner (about 4 pounds) not that long ago, primarily as it had Come Together on it, as well as the usual suspects - SFA, Pulp, Supergrass, etc - and fell in love with Doves doing a stellar version of Cedar Room on it. Can easily watch that again and again and it'll send a shiver down my spine every time.angelsighs wrote:good call mate, a band who deserves more recognition round these parts. I prefer Lost Souls though. I'm also looking forward to the new one.eleKtroniK:musiK wrote: Doves ~ Last Broadcast (2002) Heavenly
* It just works~in it's entirety
Other's opinions!eleKtroniK:musiK wrote: Yeah, i find it odd that there is minimal mention of Doves...just browsing through the 'Rolling Stone/Mojo/Q' Top tens on here, i imagined that Doves would be quite accessable for most...
sorry, scathing remark, its the hayfever...just cant be arsed seeing another blah_blah_blah_sheep list
but Sheep? Not many round here chap.Yeah all three albums are excellent i reckon- all the B sides are class too... Lost Sides is as good as any of the proper albums. With Last Broadcast i'm not so keen on Words or NY anymore dunno why, but they're the only weak links for me really.eleKtroniK:musiK wrote:
aye, all three are good, although i don't think there is any 'padding' on the Last Broadcast.
Yeah, i find it odd that there is minimal mention of Doves...just browsing through the 'Rolling Stone/Mojo/Q' Top tens on here, i imagined that Doves would be quite accessable for most...
sorry, scathing remark, its the hayfever...just cant be arsed seeing another blah_blah_blah_sheep list
Haven't seen that.. I've got the Where We're Calling From DVD though, packed full of great stuff, but the Eden footage baffling omits The Cedar Room?? Madness.ash wrote:
I got that Jools Holland Cool Brittania DVD for a tenner (about 4 pounds) not that long ago, primarily as it had Come Together on it, as well as the usual suspects - SFA, Pulp, Supergrass, etc - and fell in love with Doves doing a stellar version of Cedar Room on it. Can easily watch that again and again and it'll send a shiver down my spine every time.
ok, then you do the vote counting.BzaInSpace wrote:Other's opinions!eleKtroniK:musiK wrote: Yeah, i find it odd that there is minimal mention of Doves...just browsing through the 'Rolling Stone/Mojo/Q' Top tens on here, i imagined that Doves would be quite accessable for most...
sorry, scathing remark, its the hayfever...just cant be arsed seeing another blah_blah_blah_sheep list
Hayfever. I get that as well. Its great when you can channel all your frustration and irratability onto something like this isn't it. Isn't it?
I've never seen Funkadelic, In Utero or Aretha in the best of's composed by those mags you mention. And those are just from Jig's summary. Have a look again, I'm certain there is a wide, eclectic variety of music mentioned. Everyone was asked to list their all-time favourites - not their most obscure choices.
Sorry...the hayfever....
Right, this is what baffles me...probably just as much as my 'throw-away' statement baffles you;BzaInSpace wrote:Why would I want to negate the good and thorough work The Jig has done so far? I have no reason to believe his results are not accurate. Cheers to him for taking the time and effort to do something like that also!
Have a look at the lists again. In beteween all the Radiohead and U2 and Smiths and Nirvana etc there are obviously very personal choices, some very left-field, out there and generally unknown indeed. Besides, just because something is popular it need not mean it is inferior in any way - it's that "sheep" comment again. The majority of posters here clearly have their own minds and opinions and their thoughts are free. Long may it continue!
I think most of us here judge music on its own merits as opposed to what Uncut's editorial team think or what's gone "multi-plat". And so fucking what if they do? Everybody needs a way into music to start with. Music can be good and popular - antithesis to the old-skool sad-sack* indie brigade but fuck them too!
Time for some more albums I think.
* I nicked this from someone's sterling comment on Noel G. Cheers!
Thanks. Never really looked at it like that before but you're probably right. What does sought-out platform mean ?eleKtroniK:musiK wrote: Jig (who IMO and like yourself BZA, has an eclectic, broad and sought-out platform of music)
fuck knows; springboard, strong-footing, good-bearingThe Jig wrote:
What does sought-out platform mean ?
Then you need to go and buy the DVD called One Giant Leap. Check it out sometime, it's incredible. Seriously, buy that DVD.eleKtroniK:musiK wrote: I love to hear more why something moves a person rather than what it is that causes the emotional stir.
eleKtroniK:musiK wrote: Portishead~Roseland NYC Live : Roads just kills me every time
the bit at the end; right after the last how can it feel, this wrong, Beth pauses, the crowd cheers and she comes back with a perfect from this moment...
heart~stopping
Indeed, from the very first Ohh, can't anybody seeThe Jig wrote:Then you need to go and buy the DVD called One Giant Leap. Check it out sometime, it's incredible. Seriously, buy that DVD.eleKtroniK:musiK wrote: I love to hear more why something moves a person rather than what it is that causes the emotional stir.
eleKtroniK:musiK wrote: Portishead~Roseland NYC Live : Roads just kills me every time
the bit at the end; right after the last how can it feel, this wrong, Beth pauses, the crowd cheers and she comes back with a perfect from this moment...
heart~stopping
Brilliant album, brilliant DVD. And Roads is beautiful, all of it, beautiful.
Thirded. Was watching that DVD last night, and... it's one of those amazing moments in music. Even the clapping along - something that would normally be a bit anthemically cringeworthy (I'm reminded of Thom Yorke in the live version of Inside My Head when he has to tell the crowd to stop clapping) - adds an extra layer of intimacy to the whole thing.eleKtroniK:musiK wrote:Portishead~Roseland NYC Live : Roads just kills me every time
the bit at the end; right after the last how can it feel, this wrong, Beth pauses, the crowd cheers and she comes back with a perfect from this moment...
heart~stopping
i like that..reminds me of David Holmes, lets get killed. i believe he took a load of acid and wandered the streets of new york with a microphone. The songs are interspersed with fragments of the random conversations he recorded. It gives the album a nice down and dirty feel.eleKtroniK:musiK wrote:[I heard a track by Stephan Mathieu (sound~artist) the other day. It was part of a collection of recordings by artists in different cities throughout the world.
This fella attached microphones to his umbrella and went a wander through Berlin.
It was raining, you could hear car horns, engines, the ebb and flow of the rainfall, murmured voices. Where was he going, what was his purpose that day and did he plan his route...
ash wrote:Thirded. Was watching that DVD last night, and... it's one of those amazing moments in music. Even the clapping along - something that would normally be a bit anthemically cringeworthy (I'm reminded of Thom Yorke in the live version of Inside My Head when he has to tell the crowd to stop clapping) - adds an extra layer of intimacy to the whole thing.eleKtroniK:musiK wrote:Portishead~Roseland NYC Live : Roads just kills me every time
the bit at the end; right after the last how can it feel, this wrong, Beth pauses, the crowd cheers and she comes back with a perfect from this moment...
heart~stopping
And that's yet another reformation album (did they ever really break up?) to look forward to.
eleKtroniK:musiK wrote:just making sure we're on the same page here...is that 1 Giant Leap ex faithless and contributors such as Stipe, Cherry and Eddie Reader?
angelsighs wrote:good call mate, a band who deserves more recognition round these parts. I prefer Lost Souls though. I'm also looking forward to the new one.eleKtroniK:musiK wrote: Doves ~ Last Broadcast (2002) Heavenly
* It just works~in it's entirety
Y'know, ever since Spammy/MUFC got me to rethink my appraisal of the Stone Roses first album, i've been finding that Doves recent album Some Cities is just a regurgetation of the those basslines, drum patterns etc to some extent; however I'll still throw my hat (a zebra patterened fedora) into the ring for The Last Broadcast sure it aint groundbreaking but as an album it moves along nicely, no fillers and the final 3 songs are a perfect finish to an album...The Jig wrote:angelsighs wrote:good call mate, a band who deserves more recognition round these parts. I prefer Lost Souls though. I'm also looking forward to the new one.eleKtroniK:musiK wrote: Doves ~ Last Broadcast (2002) Heavenly
* It just works~in it's entirety
Last Broadcast. Listened to it last night. Surprised myself that i didn't turn it off to be truthful. Wasn't dreadful but i found it very bland. It might be the last broadcast for quite a while.....
eleKtroniK:musiK wrote:Y'know, ever since Spammy/MUFC got me to rethink my appraisal of the Stone Roses first album, i've been finding that Doves recent album Some Cities is just a regurgetation of the those basslines, drum patterns etc to some extent; however I'll still throw my hat (a zebra patterened fedora) into the ring for The Last Broadcast sure it aint groundbreaking but as an album it moves along nicely, no fillers and the final 3 songs are a perfect finish to an album...The Jig wrote:angelsighs wrote:good call mate, a band who deserves more recognition round these parts. I prefer Lost Souls though. I'm also looking forward to the new one.eleKtroniK:musiK wrote: Doves ~ Last Broadcast (2002) Heavenly
* It just works~in it's entirety
Last Broadcast. Listened to it last night. Surprised myself that i didn't turn it off to be truthful. Wasn't dreadful but i found it very bland. It might be the last broadcast for quite a while.....
Bland-actually would be an appropriate way to describe the sound; like when you get a day that never gets started, i.e. the sky is that light grey, not sure if it is morning, midday or evening. Theres a weighted feeling in the air you still have to squint your eyes and you could possibly just slip away...
Anyway, you like Radiohead, The Jig? Whats your opinion on The Eraser, I have had it for donks and just startin to give it a spin...i'm impressed
also...on a portishead type thingy....Lamb...like them? Heard any of Lou Rhodes solo stuff?
Rearguards
Fair enough.The Jig wrote:
A free copy of Last Broadcast is available to the first person who asks.
After the dross that was Amnesiac and Kid A i felt like i'd had my fingers burnt. I didn't even bother with Hail To The Thief, and The Eraser, well i've also allowed that to pass me by so far.
Lou Rhodes solo album, Beloved One, is stunning (i think so anyway). Much different to Lamb. Yeah i do like, a lot. Got listening to Fear Of Fours (adore Bonfire) over the weekend.
Fair point about the vocal on Last Broadcast, none of the singers in doves are great, and the vocals in that album could do with more work i guess. Words is grating to me cause of that very reason (and it goes on too long, and it sounds like the Charlatans), and NY similarly, (the noise bit seems a bit bolted on there too). And the production could be a bit more roomy and less stifling. But the peaks (There Goes The Fear, the title track) are some of their best.The Jig wrote:The vocals on Last Broadcast come across as a very weak area on that album. It's as if the vocalist knows what's needed for the sound they're out to create and does just enough, nothing more. Maybe that's where it goes wrong for me, as well as the many Soundbites that come creeping out from somewhere. No fillers !!! I struggle to hear no fillers and surprisingly i'm listening to it again. The first track is actually very good and i'd gladly listen to that all night (note; no vocals). Sadly from there on it becomes something stuck between that unenviable rock and a hard place and struggles for character.
'Lost Souls'......Because of listening to 'Last Broadcast' i gave it a whirl earlier and probably at the wrong time of day. Found myself skipping through after the 4th song. The 3rd track, 'Break Me Gently', in parts sound ever so slightly like 'The Chameleons ~ Soul In Isolation'. Have a listen, it's in there somewhere. I'll find some time to listen to it without throwing in the towel, although i fear it'll be a case of too much of a muchness. Hope i'm wrong.angelsighs wrote:I think Lost Souls is their greatest work- a good leaning towards production and atmosphere, but doesn't skimp on anthems when needed either. I put that on and just get lost in it from start to finish.
'Radiohead' were/are too good to go s*** and although 'Kid A' and 'Amnesiac' fell flat, for me at least, i've always intended to get 'Hail To The Thief' eventually. Now might be a good time and double that up with 'The Eraser', and perhaps try to swim the under-currents of 'Kid A' and 'Amnesiac' once more.eleKtroniK:musiK wrote: Regarding Radiohead, I avoided all of it until one long drive to Yorkshire ("Centre of England, England centre of Britain and Britain centre of the world" or so I was told) where I picked up Kid A on cassette at some service station. From what I remember Everything in its right place and Idioteque stood out...so along with that, some decent artwork and having heard Harrowdown Hill I picked up The Eraser.
I like it for what it is; a gently churning primitive attempt at responsible electronica...or something.
Yes, yes...Lamb...Bonfire...nice idea behind that song...about burning all the things that grate on you as a means of moving on
I think i'll have a go with Lou Rhodes then.
I'm a bit the same - a big fan of the first two records, and bought Kid A when it first came out and was horribly disappointed. Amnesiac was slightly better, but contains one of their best songs, if not the best song of the decade (big statement, I know), in Pyramid Song. Luuuuverly.The Jig wrote:'Radiohead' were/are too good to go s*** and although 'Kid A' and 'Amnesiac' fell flat, for me at least, i've always intended to get 'Hail To The Thief' eventually. Now might be a good time and double that up with 'The Eraser', and perhaps try to swim the under-currents of 'Kid A' and 'Amnesiac' once more.
Thats an oldy! Just done a quick Discogs trying to find the one Fila Brazillia album I owned and guess what...it aint there...it was a mainly bright yellow cover...released about 96/97 as I remember having it at the bus-stop one day...(meandering thoughts!)The Jig wrote:
And on a 'Lamb' type thing.....'Fila Brazillia'...Like them ? Check out 'Live @ Victoria & Albert Museum' if you get the chance.
The hunt is not going well. I could buy it now on FleaBay if i were prepared to part £64.00 for it. However, that's never going to happen. A third of that cost and i'd consider it.eleKtroniK:musiK wrote:How you getting on with your hunt for that elusive Global Communication remix of Chapterhouse?
ash wrote:bought Kid A when it first came out and was horribly disappointed. Amnesiac was slightly better, but contains one of their best songs, if not the best song of the decade (big statement, I know), in Pyramid Song. Luuuuverly.
I think its become almost fashionable to slag Radiohead by pseudo-critics and musical snobs. In most cases, its due to a dislike of Thom Yorke himself, or more baffingly, assumptions made about those that like Radiohead ie the fans. Bizarre. I think the old Radiohead fans are all into Arcade Fire now instead. There's an assumption right there!moop wrote:i find it strange that so many people on here don't seem to like radiohead post-bends/ok puter. i reckon the albums since then are all pretty solid, though i'll admit to finding HTTT slightly too safe (and hindered by being over-produced).
