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Post by Ian Goodchild » Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:54 pm

Hiya Dredgie! Tell us a bit about yourself. Tell us why you like Spiritualized - if indeed, you do like them; what the first Spiritualized record you bought was, and what your purpose is here?

I ask this because Spiritualized meant, and still do mean, an awful lot to me (and many other people who post), but your sole contribution to discussion so far seems to be getting rather weak pops at people by treating them as imbeciles. Say something constructive. Or does that sound dumb to you? Doing the old pedantry routine, or dissing people for no reason (posters and/or musicians) has been done to death by $26, and for all his multiple sins, he has a pretty encyclopedic knowledge of music and is a smart little cookie. Do you have that?

People care about Spiritualized. I mean REALLY CARE, not Manic Street Preachers care, or Marilyn Manson care, but 'playing 'em every day care' or 'seeing them live 53 times care', or owning over a hundred of their live shows care. We know Pierce doesn't read this shit, and we know he won't listen to us, but still...you need to vent your feelings, right? And we know Pierce is fallible: his judgement can be spectacularly bad sometimes, and it's my belief that the fans that care the most about this band DO NOT see him as God. And do not see a spectacular exercise of piss-taking as a work of genius.

The existence of CWVI and CWVII has damaged that a bit for me - No, a LOT. Do you get that? Similarly, I love 'Amazing Grace', and would be glad to justify why I do, but a lot of people on this board don't. It's worth discussing these things.

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Post by dredgie » Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:55 pm

spzretent wrote:
dredgie wrote:times are hard for self-righteous pricks.
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Why? Please explain. You should know.
ask nasty - that's how he charmingly described me. so is everyone allowed an opinion but me ?

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Post by spzretent » Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:02 pm

Dredgie:
Everyone is allowed and opinion. Even you. It is just the way you go about it this is so fucking irritating.

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Post by nasty » Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:04 pm

why do you spend so much time ranting about a band you don't relate to anymore?
It doesn't take that much time, although I'm not sure my boss would see it that way. For my part the reason why I still take an interest (i don't like to think of it as ranting!) is that while Jason's laziness is well documented, he has written enough material that has blown me away enough to hope for more... just because I don't subscribe to everything he knocks out why the fuck is that so hard to understand? Besides, other than LGM I was always more of an S3 fan anyway.... for comparison Sonic's forever alien wasn't for me but in the same way I'll be at the front of the queue for the next spectrum offering simply cos I know the talent's there. Does that not seem reasonable?
nasty sounds like a closet mick hucknall nut !!!!
i daren't protest other than to say that i suspected an underlying reason for the rather crude comparison of boards of canada and simply red!

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Post by dredgie » Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:04 pm

:D why don't you smile now?

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Post by nasty » Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:07 pm

Haven't got time, gonna miss my train.

Night all (punk's not dead)

:D

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Post by purespace » Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:27 pm

In a silly attempt to bring this "discussion" back to point, some of us fortunate ones from Chris Barrus' old site have our own Complete Works that smashes the balls of CWVI and II. This was done at a time when members on his board were actually NICE to each other and decided to collectively pool personal collections to start a cd tree to get these out to other fans. It consists of a 7 cdr collection of rare Spz tunes as follows:

Spiritualized Lazer Guided Melodies
CD ONE
(73:43)*********************************************************************
***
Recurring Demos
1. These Blues 3:07
Anyway that you want me CD single Dedicated ZT 43784
2. Anyway That You Want Me 6:31
3. Step Into The Breeze (part 1) 2:48
4. Step Into The Breeze (part 2) 2:48
Anyway that you want me 12" Remix single Dedicated ZT 43870
5. Anyway That You Want Me (remix 1) 5:10
6. Anyway That You Want Me (remix 2) 4:52
7. Anyway That You Want Me (remix 3) 6:07
8. Anyway That You Want Me (demo) 3:09
Feel so sad/I want you CD single Fierce FRIGHT 053
9. Feel So Sad 5:35
10. I Want You 3:45
Feel so sad CD single Dedicated SPIRT 001
11. Feel So Sad (Rhapsodies) 13:21
12. Feel So Sad (Glides and Chimes) 6:33
Bonus Bootleg Track M. Radcliffe, Hit The North, 4/29/92
13. Step Into the Breeze 4:07
Bonus Bootleg Track M. Radcliffe, Radio One, 11/8/93
14. Sway 5:50

Spiritualized Lazer Guided Melodies
CD TWO
(71:00)*********************************************************************
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Run/I want you CD single Dedicated SPIRT 002
1. Run 3:17
2. Luminescence (Stay With Me) 5:08
3. I Want You 3:55
4. Effervescent (Chimes) 7:16
Smile/Sway CD single Dedicated SPIRT 003
5. Why Don't You Smile Now 5:47
I want you CD single Dedicated SPIRT 004CD
6. You Know It's True (instrumental) 3:39
7. 100 Bars (Flashback) 6:01
Glastonbury 1992 Festival CD sampler
8. Shine a Light (live) 11:00
Medication CD single Dedicated SPIRT 005CD
9. Medication 8:19
10. Angel Sigh 4:44
11. Feel So Sad 8:09
12. Space 3:45
13. These Blues [cleaned] 3:07

Spiritualized Fucked Up Inside
CD THREE
(72:07)*********************************************************************
Medication 7" single
1. Smiles (John Peel session) 5:27
Fucked Up Inside CD album Dedicated DEDCD 008
2. Take Good Care Of It (live) 4:50
3. I Want You (live) 3:18
4. Medication (live) 7:34
5. Angel Sigh (live) 5:11
6. Walking With Jesus (live) 5:03
7. Shine A Light (Clear Light Clear Rush) (live) 14:40
8. Smiles (live) 6:35
Volume Six CD sampler
9. Smiles (live) 6:12
Smiles/100 bars 7" Dedicated flexie 7"
10. 100 Bars (A Capella version) 4:17
Bonus Bootleg Tracks M. Radcliffe, Hit The North, 4/29/92
11. If I Were With Her Now 4:21
12. Angel Sigh 4:39

Spiritualized Electric Mainline
CD FOUR
(70:22)*********************************************************************
Good dope, good fun 7" GREENPEACE 01
1. Good Dope, Good Fun 4:58
Electric mainline CD single Dedicated SPIRT 007
2. Good Times 4:05
3. Lay Back In The Sun 3:48
4. Electric Mainline (I) 7:48
5. Electric Mainline (II) 8:39
Dedicated Sampler CD
6. Lay Back in the Sun (alternate mix) 4:40
Volume Twelve CD sampler
7. Good Times (alternate mix) 5:44
Select Exclusives April 1995 Cassette
8. Spread Your Wings (Pure Phase) 8:11
Bonus Bootleg Tracks M. Radcliffe, Radio One, 11/8/93
9. Let It Flow (live) 4:50
10. Born Never Asked/Electric Mainline (live) 6:48
Bonus Bootleg Track J Peel, 4/18/95
10. Don't Go (live) 4:36
Bonus Bootleg Track Flux Festival, Queen's Hall, Edinburgh, 8/14/98
11. Cool Waves (live) 6:15

Spiritualized Electric Mainline
CD FIVE
(72:50)*********************************************************************
**
Let it flow CD single #2 Dedicated SPIRT 009CD(2)
1. Take Good Care Of It (live) 5:58
2. Things'll Never Be The Same (live) 7:17
3. Clear Rush (live) 7:14
Let it flow CD single #3 Dedicated SPIRT 009CD(3)
4. Medication (live) 7:38
5. Take Your Time (live) 6:43
6. Smiles (live) 5:42
Lay back in the sun CD single BMG/Dedicated 74321 31178 2
7. Lay Back In The Sun 3:46
8. Spread Your Wings (instrumental) 6:17
9. Lay Back In The Sun (instrumental) 4:25
Bonus Bootleg Tracks BBC2, Later with Jules Holland
10. Come Together 4:42
11. Broken Heart 4:30
12. Oh Happy Day 5:04
Bonus Bootleg Track Radio One Broadcast
13. I Am What I am 3:35

Spiritualized Rocket Shaped Songs
CD SIX
(73:36)*********************************************************************
****
Ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space CD album promo
1. Ladies and Gentlemen We are Floating in Space (elvis mix) 3:56
Ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space Japanese CD album
2. Broken Heart (instrumental version #1) 8:08
Electricity CD single #1 SPIRT 012CD(1)
3. Take Your Time (live) 7:33
4. All Of My Tears (live) 3:29
5. Cool Waves (instrumental) 3:05
Electricity CD single #2 SPIRT 012CD(2)
6. Cop Shoot Cop (live) 7:49
7. Shine A Light (live) 6:18
8. Electric Mainline (live) 6:47
Supplementary Dosage CD Promo Arista/Dedicated ASCD-3427
9. The X-Files Theme 3:34
I think I'm in love CD single Dedicated SPIRT 014CD
10. I Think I'm In Love (Chemical Brothers vocal remix) 7:40
11. I Think I'm In Love (Chemical Brothers instrumental remix) 7:39
Bonus Bootleg Track Meltdown, London Festival Theatre, 7/1/98
12. Lord Can You Hear Me (live) 7:38

Spiritualized Rocket Shaped Songs
CD SEVEN
(73:20)*********************************************************************
NME Clean sweep compilation CD NME NME AST 98
1. Rocket U.S.A. 10:27
Abbey road CD single Arista/Dedicated 07822 13508-2
2. Come Together 3:22
3. Come Together (Two Lone Swordsmen Mix) 15:33
4. Broken Heart 3:48
5. Broken Heart (instrumental) 4:21
Come together 12" remix single
6. Come Together (Death In Vegas Mix) 7:11
Abbey road German CD single Deconstruction (Germany) LC
8280
7. Shine a light (live) 6:43
8. Electric Mainline (live) 5:02
9. Home of the Brave (live)3:29
10. The individual (live) 2:32
Bonus Bootleg Track Glasgow, 3/15/98
11. Nothing Hurts (live) 5:41
Bonus Bootleg Track Flux Festival, Queen's Hall, Edinburgh,
8/14/98
12. Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space (live) 5:11

Needless to say, CWVI and II are irrelevant to some of us.

(awaits stunned silence)

Discuss.

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Post by Horrorflick » Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:40 pm

Is there any place we can get some of the stuff on that set? It's the dope with the most! :o

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Post by mazza » Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:43 pm

that sounds fuckin' awesome man. :shock:

complete works 1 and 2 my arse !!!!

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Post by natty » Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:19 pm

Purespace: I think I mentioned the idea of doing this on an earlier post in this thread but it seemed to get shouted down.

That's a pretty impressive set, I don't have a fair bit of it but have most of what's been committed to vinyl or CD.

The only thing on CW2 I don't have is the X-Files theme.

Anyone interested PM me.
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Re: Peace on Earth

Post by stevie » Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:26 pm

Ian Goodchild wrote:
Stevie - I'm sorry you interpreted my post in that way. I genuinely wanted to hear what people who are going to buy CWVII had to say to the objections I raised. I really, honestly CANNOT UNDERSTAND why people want this.
Fair enough, but I guess the main reason why most people would want to buy it is cos they don't have some/any of the tracks that are on it. Simple as that probably.
wrote:With anti-CWVII posters ALL putting forward a hell of a lot more convincing, articulate and personal reasons why they won't buy CWVII and why they feel let down by this whole thing, I'd love to know why no-one answered ANY of the questions I asked. So, here's some more:
I can't answer your questions cos I've got eveything that's on it and I won't be buying it. I can't say I feel especially let down though cos although I hoped there might actually be some rarities on it I was always pretty sure that there'd be no surprises based on what appeared on cw1, which I did buy cos there was some bits on pieces on it that I didn't have and alot of the tracks on it I only had on vinyl.

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Post by JBonghit » Tue Dec 09, 2003 11:13 pm

[quote=
xxxshonnxxx

(JB, or you from San Diego? I thought I was stranded out here by myself)[/quote]

I've been here in San Diego for about 15 years. Don't worry, I thought I was the only Spz fan here too.

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Post by a beautiful noise » Wed Dec 10, 2003 12:07 am

Hey JB, do you happen to play the bass?!?!?!

We should meet up sometime. What part of town are you in?


AND YES, I KNOW WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS IN PM BUT F@#K OFF, IT TOOK ME 15 MINUTES TO SEND ONE TO NATTY. SO DON"T START ON ME!!
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

xxxshonnxxx

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Post by JBonghit » Wed Dec 10, 2003 12:51 am

Sorry no bass playing, but I've been known to play the geetar. I'm in South Mission Hills, by Gelato Vero.

Are you in a band? email at scott@sfadv.com

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Post by carpet » Wed Dec 10, 2003 5:16 pm

Listen guys! Jason is a genius, if he wants to compile it like that then let him do so. Even tho i must admit the warchild version of Hold On would be nice. Its HIS job to compile the order, NOT you. So leave him to his job and stop the FUCKING whinging

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Post by spzretent » Wed Dec 10, 2003 5:30 pm

carpet wrote: Its HIS job to compile the order, NOT you. So leave him to his job and stop the FUCKING whinging
Well many of us think he is doing a really shitty job!

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Post by nasty » Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:42 pm

will people please stop whinging about people whinging!

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Post by clewsr » Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:24 pm

nasty wrote:will people please stop whinging about people whinging!
LOL :o

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Post by dredgie » Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:33 pm

:D

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Post by mh » Thu Dec 11, 2003 4:22 pm

One thing people seem to be missing in the last few posts (pages!!!) is that Jason probably has nothing whatsoever to do with this release.

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Post by spzretent » Thu Dec 11, 2003 5:22 pm

Thats even more of an indictment of him then. He takes so much care in in other aspects of the Spiritualized releases. No matter how much he hates BMG he should still have major input w/CW2.
Furthermore, look how much thought he puts into b-sides.
I rest my case.

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Post by Heady » Thu Dec 11, 2003 5:42 pm

Heady wrote:
a beautiful noise wrote:I have to agree with JB. I don't think Jason would want to give anything to his old label than he has too. We spoke to him for a rather lengthy time a few weeks ago, he definetely has quite a few "projects" that he will be releasing . So all I can say is, if you don't like the CW2, or Amazing Grace, just waite till you see what he has in store for you.


xxxshonnxxx

(JB, or you from San Diego? I thought I was stranded out here by myself)
That's very cryptic, care to enlighten us?!
Hello? Is no-one interested in what 'A Beautiful Noise' is hinting at, which is surely more interesting than sharing each other's views on how shit CWII is going to be?

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Post by jess farr » Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:51 pm

man,
90 replies+intense bitching over a collection of b-sides.
you guys are awesome.
jason should be should be overjoyed to have fans like you,but I don't think he gives a shit.
too bad...
rock on.

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Post by spzretent » Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:56 am

A very well thought out and insightful post. You forgot to say "dont buy it". If Jason gave a shit he may actually check this site once every 5 years.

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Post by pedryone » Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:22 pm

para muchos es una recopilacilón de mierda,pero para quienes no podemos conseguir esas mismas es guay.seguro muchos no entendeis...pero para mi son buen material.
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Post by pedryone » Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:25 pm

.....the next time i´ll try to write in english...excuse me please!!! :roll:
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Post by Horrorflick » Fri Jan 02, 2004 4:20 am

ha ha..."Go, tell it on the mountain..." You guys are so fUnNy, I laugh and laugh and laugh... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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