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25th psychocandy shows?

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from nme website


The Jesus And Mary Chain's Jim Reid has said he "wouldn't rule out" playing their debut album 'Psychocandy' in full.

Next month sees the 25th anniversary of the release of the group's 1985 studio effort - along with the release of new best of 'Upside Down' on November 15 - although the frontman admitted that if the band did perform it live, it would be "very hard".

"As far as [playing] 'Psychocandy' is concerned, I wouldn't rule it out," Reid told The VPM. "But the truth of the matter is, it's a very hard record to play live. Christ only knows how we managed to do it all those years ago, but we probably didn't! We were probably just so drunk that we thought we did."

Although now a hugely influential album, Reid said that the band had a number of things they wanted to change about the record.

"We wanted to make changes to 'Psychocandy' within a matter of days after completion," he admitted. "It's like that with any record you make, it can never be perfect, you always want to keep changing things and tinkering with it. You just have to kind of draw the line somewhere because this doesn't really make it better – it just makes it different from what it would have been."

He added: "Looking back on 'Psychocandy' now it's a bit like looking at an old photograph of ourselves or something, it crystallizes exactly what we were about at that point in time, but of course we change, but the record doesn't."
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I agree. It would be very difficult to reproduce those sounds live. I didn't even know they were still talking to each other much less playing live again. Of course, playing in Detroit in the event of this unlikely event even being scheduled would be way too much to ask...
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It would be interesting if the shows included Bobby Gillespie on drums. ^^

Mh, I wouldn't say it would be difficult to reproduce the sound live. Psychocandy is easier to reproduce than many other records.
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Horrorflick wrote:I didn't even know they were still talking to each other much less playing live again.
They've been playing the occasional show here and there. I saw them in 2007 and they were quite good - Loz from Ride is on drums and Phil from Lush is playing bass for them now.
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I can't see this happening, the quote comes from the very last answer of an interview Jim gave recently but i don't believe it was said with any real conviction. Besides which, if anyone has been following William's posts on youtube you'll probably agree that anything from the brothers is a long way off. Grim viewing: http://www.youtube.com/user/bbcreid :(

The good news is that all the studio albums are getting the deluxe treatment with relevant b-sides, radio sessions, demos, live material etc. I've got all the material anyway but no doubt will go and buy them again. :roll:

I'd also recommend "Upside Down, The Best Of..." a 44 track, 2-cd compilation released recently that you can pick up on Amazon for under five quid. Got mine at the weekend for £3.99 but i think it's back up to £4.99 now. Bargain either way.
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sunray wrote: Grim viewing: http://www.youtube.com/user/bbcreid :(
Thats terrible... he looks smashed in every pic... the ramblings of a drunken loon? I can only hope its not as bad as it looks... :(
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This is what his wife posted on her blog this week: http://lisavale.blogspot.com/2010/10/rainy-days.html
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sunray wrote:The good news is that all the studio albums are getting the deluxe treatment with relevant b-sides, radio sessions, demos, live material etc. I've got all the material anyway but no doubt will go and buy them again. :roll:
got any more info on this?
my CD of Psychocandy has really flat mastering so could definitely do with an upgrade. would also love all the relevant tracks from the time.. i'm one of those people that think Psychocandy is something they never got close to again! :)
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There's a note on the new 'Best Of' saying that...

"...forthcoming expanded reissue of pshychocandy. This will include relevant b-sides, radio sessions, demos, rarities and live tracks. and will be followed by similar editions of all studio albums!
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ching ching
'raging and weeping are left on the early road
now each in his holy hill
the glittering and hurting days are alomst done
then let us compare mythologies
i have learned my elaborate lie
of soaring crosses and poisened thorns'
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JPB wrote:There's a note on the new 'Best Of' saying that...

"...forthcoming expanded reissue of pshychocandy. This will include relevant b-sides, radio sessions, demos, rarities and live tracks. and will be followed by similar editions of all studio albums!
hope they include the 'upside down' demo
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JPB wrote:There's a note on the new 'Best Of' saying that...

"...forthcoming expanded reissue of pshychocandy. This will include relevant b-sides, radio sessions, demos, rarities and live tracks. and will be followed by similar editions of all studio albums!
nice one, cheers! :)
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Like that track he posted on his youtube, not quite as good as those live versions they did though?
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Looks like Screamadelica is also getting the reissue treat in March next year.

Good article here...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oc ... elica-live
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Laz69 wrote:
sunray wrote: Grim viewing: http://www.youtube.com/user/bbcreid :(
Thats terrible... he looks smashed in every pic... the ramblings of a drunken loon? I can only hope its not as bad as it looks... :(
Well, I can imagine that quite well. Poor him.
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Horrorflick wrote:I didn't even know they were still talking to each other much less playing live again.
They've been playing the occasional show here and there. I saw them in 2007 and they were quite good - Loz from Ride is on drums and Phil from Lush is playing bass for them now.
I wonder whether there'll ever be a Ride reunion. More absurdley, I dreamt of a Lush reunion a couple of weeks ago.
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Already There wrote:I wonder whether there'll ever be a Ride reunion.

I wish. I think now would be a good time to do it. can't see it happening though.
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what's Mark Gardener up to these days?
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Kurious Oranj wrote:what's Mark Gardener up to these days?
he's done a little bit of very low key solo stuff, and he produces a bit too
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angelsighs wrote:
Already There wrote:I wonder whether there'll ever be a Ride reunion.

I wish. I think now would be a good time to do it. can't see it happening though.
True. It would be too good to be true.

I am curious what the Creation Records film is going to be like. I only read what was in last week's NME, but that sounded pretty interesting. It said they were going to tour the film? I wonder how that's going to work. Has anyone been at the showing on the 23rd?
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An hour long interview with Jim Reid on BBC6 Music this coming Sunday at 12. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vsv66 :D
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3 new songs by william, actually 'kennedy song' was premiered live 2 years ago in chile

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I just bought that Freeheat CD called Back On The Water. Totally confused as to what the point of this is. 10 of the 17 tracks are live. Its ok. It was a cheapie on Amazon.
I remember seeing them 1/2 mile from my house. They were good. There were less than 50 people there.
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angelsighs wrote:
sunray wrote:The good news is that all the studio albums are getting the deluxe treatment with relevant b-sides, radio sessions, demos, live material etc. I've got all the material anyway but no doubt will go and buy them again. :roll:
got any more info on this?
my CD of Psychocandy has really flat mastering so could definitely do with an upgrade. would also love all the relevant tracks from the time.. i'm one of those people that think Psychocandy is something they never got close to again! :)

bought the Rhino rerelease last week ,its remastered ,the only one of the Rhino reissuse I beleive thats had the treatment and it sounds fantastic ,can`t compare it to any other issue as I only have it on vinyl otherwise ,but it def. don`t sound flat anything but ,been pretty high in the works van playlist ,bringing back all the good "Chain" times .
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Kurious Oranj wrote:what's Mark Gardener up to these days?
just discovered his site the other day

http://www.markgardener.com/
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niamhm wrote:
angelsighs wrote:
sunray wrote:The good news is that all the studio albums are getting the deluxe treatment with relevant b-sides, radio sessions, demos, live material etc. I've got all the material anyway but no doubt will go and buy them again. :roll:
got any more info on this?
my CD of Psychocandy has really flat mastering so could definitely do with an upgrade. would also love all the relevant tracks from the time.. i'm one of those people that think Psychocandy is something they never got close to again! :)

bought the Rhino rerelease last week ,its remastered ,the only one of the Rhino reissuse I beleive thats had the treatment and it sounds fantastic ,can`t compare it to any other issue as I only have it on vinyl otherwise ,but it def. don`t sound flat anything but ,been pretty high in the works van playlist ,bringing back all the good "Chain" times .
nice one, i've got the original CD which is very flat. I think that CD issue came out at the same time as 21 Singles (which i've got and the songs sound MUCH better on there)
this new reissue looks like it has my name on it. like i say I love Psychocandy but nothing else of theirs has really grabbed me. this will be a chance for me to mop up that era in one foul swoop.
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