Beady Eye

For new sounds, old sounds and favourite sound discussion...

Moderators: sunny, BzaInSpace, runcible, spzretent

niamhm
Known user
Posts: 1894
Joined: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:07 pm

Re: Beady Eye

Post by niamhm »

ravench wrote:It would be beneficial if all this Oasis stuff was posted on Oasis forums.
Sorry but its pointless talking about them. They do not exist anymore and they produced rubbish.
shut the door on the way out then.
Already There
Known user
Posts: 444
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:57 am
Location: Berlin, Germany
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by Already There »

niamhm wrote:
Where Did It All Go Wrong is also the worst of the pub rock they put out
different strokes and that ,but I always liked that track ,reminds me of Crazy Horse ,something about the riff.
Yeah, they have songs worse than this one. I Can See A Liar is pretty cool, too. 8)
W: What are we supposed to do with that?
M: Eat it.
W: Eat it? Fucker’s alive.
M: Yeah, you’ve got to kill it.
W: Me? I’m the firelighter and fuel collector.

Gigs 2010: http://www.last.fm/user/Colin_in_Mexico/events/2010
radioshack
Known user
Posts: 453
Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:03 pm
Location: Glasgow
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by radioshack »

Already There wrote:
niamhm wrote:
Where Did It All Go Wrong is also the worst of the pub rock they put out
different strokes and that ,but I always liked that track ,reminds me of Crazy Horse ,something about the riff.
Yeah, they have songs worse than this one. I Can See A Liar is pretty cool, too. 8)
I Can See A Liar is awful. Like AC/DC with the worst Gallagher lyrics ever.

To answer a previous request that we talk over there, the Oasis board is (or was, as I haven't been there in god knows how many years) as one would imagine, housed by the most appalling, ridiculous, thuggish and dumbass Liam wannabes you'd expect to be there. I'm pretty sure there was a really nasty porn thread too. I don't imagine they'd welcome a Spaceman vs. Noel discussion too much. We should be proud we can talk in a civil and constructive way here? Or shall we start posting messages Liam-stylee next to chav porn?
Already There
Known user
Posts: 444
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:57 am
Location: Berlin, Germany
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by Already There »

radioshack wrote: I Can See A Liar is awful. Like AC/DC with the worst Gallagher lyrics ever.
I don't care much about the lyrics.

Although Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is is far superior. I really dig the keyboards there.
radioshack wrote: To answer a previous request that we talk over there, the Oasis board is (or was, as I haven't been there in god knows how many years) as one would imagine, housed by the most appalling, ridiculous, thuggish and dumbass Liam wannabes you'd expect to be there. I'm pretty sure there was a really nasty porn thread too. I don't imagine they'd welcome a Spaceman vs. Noel discussion too much. We should be proud we can talk in a civil and constructive way here? Or shall we start posting messages Liam-stylee next to chav porn?
Are you talking about the official Oasis board or the one on Oasisfanatic?
W: What are we supposed to do with that?
M: Eat it.
W: Eat it? Fucker’s alive.
M: Yeah, you’ve got to kill it.
W: Me? I’m the firelighter and fuel collector.

Gigs 2010: http://www.last.fm/user/Colin_in_Mexico/events/2010
burningwheel
Known user
Posts: 833
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Inner Space
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by burningwheel »

did it leak?
[url=http://www.loveisforever.org]Primal Scream, My Bloody Valentine, Swervedriver, Chapterhouse, The Telescopes, Loop, Verve and more![/url]
jadams501
Known user
Posts: 1261
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:51 am

Re: Beady Eye

Post by jadams501 »

Already There wrote:
radioshack wrote: I Can See A Liar is awful. Like AC/DC with the worst Gallagher lyrics ever.
I don't care much about the lyrics.

Although Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is is far superior. I really dig the keyboards there.
I really like both of those songs, though I'd say that Put Yet Money Where Your Mouth Is is the light-weight of the two. I Can See A Liar is as far from celebratory AC/DC party rock as you can get! It's a slice of introspective withdrawal-induced self-hatred that, it seems to me, anyone who got fed up with all of the mid-90s hype could relate to.
toomilk
Known user
Posts: 2973
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:40 pm
Location: San Diego

Re: Beady Eye

Post by toomilk »

My favorite album of theirs is Standing on the Shoulders of Giants. I think they perfected their craft of songs with lyrics that don't make any sense on that album. Fucking in the Bushes, Go Let it Out, Put yr Money where yr Mouth is, even....even...I Can See a Liar.

That album has a great sound to it. Makes me feel laid back, good.
Already There
Known user
Posts: 444
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:57 am
Location: Berlin, Germany
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by Already There »

toomilk wrote:My favorite album of theirs is Standing on the Shoulders of Giants. I think they perfected their craft of songs with lyrics that don't make any sense on that album. Fucking in the Bushes, Go Let it Out, Put yr Money where yr Mouth is, even....even...I Can See a Liar.

That album has a great sound to it. Makes me feel laid back, good.
I've never heard anyone crediting this as their favourite album. Absolutely awesome. Even though I tend to listen to it more than Definitely Maybe nowadays, it would be second on my list. Or third. I am very undecided about that. But my favourite one, forever... :D Definitely Maybe. Above all.
W: What are we supposed to do with that?
M: Eat it.
W: Eat it? Fucker’s alive.
M: Yeah, you’ve got to kill it.
W: Me? I’m the firelighter and fuel collector.

Gigs 2010: http://www.last.fm/user/Colin_in_Mexico/events/2010
MODLAB
Site Admin
Posts: 2320
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 6:52 pm
Location: Stuck in a spacetime interval.
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by MODLAB »

burningwheel wrote:did it leak?

Y


B,

M
Design.
bunnyben
Known user
Posts: 2676
Joined: Fri May 12, 2006 8:49 pm
Location: inside aimless privacy

Re: Beady Eye

Post by bunnyben »

but it seems you need to use one of those scammy sites to get a password. anyone got another link please?
'raging and weeping are left on the early road
now each in his holy hill
the glittering and hurting days are alomst done
then let us compare mythologies
i have learned my elaborate lie
of soaring crosses and poisened thorns'
ORBITAL
Known user
Posts: 1249
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Drinking Breaker at night, in the cold duchess light.

Re: Beady Eye

Post by ORBITAL »

Tittybiscuits
Work is the scourge of the drinking classes
radioshack
Known user
Posts: 453
Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:03 pm
Location: Glasgow
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by radioshack »

ORBITAL wrote:Tittybiscuits
That's what they should've called the band.
Kurious Oranj
Known user
Posts: 308
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:56 am

Re: Beady Eye

Post by Kurious Oranj »

i think the leak is fake
TheWarmth
Known user
Posts: 3959
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Chicago, IL
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by TheWarmth »

Here's a very positive, four star review of the album from Q magazine:

Beady Eye - Different Gear, Still Speeding (****)

Liam Gallagher strikes first blow as post Oasis years begin.......

Be honest. If you were the gambling type, whose chances did you favour following the bitter dissolution of Oasis in August 2009? Was it Noel, band gaffer with the anthemic Midas touch now facing what seemed an inevitable transition to Weller-esque solo Britpop godhead? Or was it Liam, voted the greatest frontman of all time by Q, yet potentially one now fronting thin air if severed from his big brother's masterplan? The safe wager seemed to be Noel, even if 18 months on we're still waiting for him to fulfil those expectations and make the crucial next move. Whereas to back Liam's bid for Noel-less glory felt at best blindly optimistic, at worst laughably imprudent.

Consider the odds. Liam has the "The Voice", but while his sporadic songwriting has matured considerably since 2000's much-derided Little James, his ability to pen a whole album is ominously unproven. The same applies to his faithful ex-Oasis right-hand men Gem Archer and Andy Bell, both of whom have borne due critical flak for supplying the band's weakest album filler since 2002's Heathen Chemistry. Not great omens, and that is before they handicap themselves with the preposterous real ale-worthy name of Beady Eye, exacerbated by Liam's typically outrageous hyperbole that they were "going to be bigger" than Oasis and Noel "will come crawling back". On paper, the story was already writing itself, all elements in place for what promised to be the most embarrassing rock folly this side of Tin Machine.

So by virtue of circumstance, his post-Oasis moment of truth, Beady Eye's Different Gear, Still Speeding was always going to be one of the most important records Liam Gallagher would ever make. The gobsmacking reality is that it's also among the best. Which isn't to say that Oasis-loathing cynics won't find fish in its barrel to keep themselves trigger happy. No surprise that, yes, a lot of it sounds like The Beatles, the lyrics are no threat to Morrissey and, as in Oasis, musically speaking nobody here is reinventing the wheel. But such mean-spirited nit-picking evaporates in the face of an album which awes in its consistency, melody, determination and, perhaps most surprisingly, positivity; as was never the case with every Oasis album after 1995's (What's the Story) Morning Glory?, making this, however unlikely it sounds, the strongest record Liam's made since.

This do-or-die sense of purpose is evident from the first wah-wah smack of Four Letter Word, akin to Spencer Davis Group's I'm A Man as played by The Stooges yet still familiarly Oasis-esque not to scare the horses. It's an opposite setting for Liam's opening war cry, "Sleepwalk your life away if that turns you on," followed by the first of the album's many allusions to the Gallagher sibling soap opera; "the battle's on and the song is the prize", or its snarling moral "nothing ever lasts FOREVER!" A necessarily cathartic overture, perhaps, it's rock'n'roll gusto sets the bar for at least half of Different Gear.....: from Bring the Light, a romping Jerry Lee Lewis homage manic enough to overcome its banal "baby, c'mon" vocal to the free blues rock chug of Three Ring Circus and the Plastic Ono jam Standing On The Edge Of The Noise. Most ravishingly raucous is Beatles and Stones, Gallagher's mission statement that he's "gonna stand the test of time" like its titular icons over a garage rock stomp twitching between The Who's My Generation and Failure by The La's.

If Beady Eye were merely a balls-to-the-wall one-trick pony this would be a passable debut. That it's above and beyond so is thanks to the majority which chooses melodic beauty over sonic boisterousness, much credit due to the clarity of producer Steve Lillywhite's touch extracting Liam's brightest vocals in aeons. Both Millionaire, a gem of '70s slide-guitar glam, and the deliriously romantic For Anyone show a sublime pop sensibility. But the big guns here are all epic ballads, lighters first rising aloft on Kill For A Dream, the wistful alternative to Four Letter Word's post-split autopsy, which just might reduce grown Oasis fans to tears. "Life's too short not to forgive," sings Liam, "I'm here if you wanna call." Its scarf-waving outro is soon eclipsed by the soulful Wigwam climaxing after six minutes in a gospel chorus with Liam "coming up" from the depths of despair.

The best, however, is saved till last. The Beat Goes On is an ELO fairytale of a tune, Liam pondering his own death and his heavenly reception by an angel's choir in Beady Eye's equivalent to Don't Look Back in Anger. "It's not the end of the world/It's not even the end of the day." It seems unsurpassable until The Morning Son ripples in on the tide of Champagne Supernova, just Liam, acoustic guitar and a tsunami of poignancy: "I stand alone/Nobody knows/ The morning son has rose." It's a shudder-inducing stroke of genius, Gallagher effectively serenading his own rebirth as the music softly explodes towards a frantic finale again reminiscent of Lillywhite's La's debit and its comparable closer Looking Glass. Breathtaking, in fact.

If the Liam Gallagher of Oasis was the greatest frontman of all time the Different Gear.... is evidence enough that with Beady Eye he's created another great British guitar band to justify that honour. And if the battle really is on, then, much to the bookmaker's horror, this decimates all negative preconceptions. The half-score an effortless one-nil to our kid. Now over to you, big brother. Simon Goddard.
runcible
Site Admin
Posts: 5443
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Yorkshire, England

Re: Beady Eye

Post by runcible »

With all due respect but Q Magazine carries as much kudos as the NME, and we know what Oasis brown-nosers they are.

The first sentence of the last paragraph says it all (I do believe Q Magazine did regard him as such when they listed their greatest ever frontmen). Any magazine that makes a claim like that can't be taken seriously.
TheWarmth
Known user
Posts: 3959
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Chicago, IL
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by TheWarmth »

Well, to be fair, what print magazines are there that can be taken seriously? Rolling Stone's top 20 albums of 2010 included the latest by Kid Rock, Kings of Leon, Eminem and Taylor Swift, so as far as I'm concerned, a magazine that champions Liam Gallagher certainly isn't the worst option.
runcible
Site Admin
Posts: 5443
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Yorkshire, England

Re: Beady Eye

Post by runcible »

I don't buy anything from the music press on a regular basis. An occasional Mojo perhaps if there's something interesting in it. Sorry but in my opinion Q is a truly wretched publication. A friend of mine once said that any current band that appears on the cover of Q is one he'll take care to avoid and there's some value in that viewpoint as far as I'm concerned.

The NME champions Liam Gallagher and that's probably the worst music publication this country produces!
TheWarmth
Known user
Posts: 3959
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Chicago, IL
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by TheWarmth »

Ok, ok ... yes, I get that they all suck. It's still interesting, IMO. I expected the album to get completely panned across the board. I suppose Q and NME are probably on par with Rolling Stone, which I only read for it's unintentional comedic value (and that's only when there is nothing else available). Don't get me wrong, I am not a Q subscriber.
MODLAB
Site Admin
Posts: 2320
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 6:52 pm
Location: Stuck in a spacetime interval.
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by MODLAB »

I like it! Make fun of me all you want.

B,

M
Design.
runcible
Site Admin
Posts: 5443
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Yorkshire, England

Re: Beady Eye

Post by runcible »

I'm afraid I skip straight across it if I am ever in a newsagents. I did actually buy it when there was that Led Zep reunion and found that Q produced one of the worst written articles I have ever read.

Having said that I'd skip anything to do with Oasis too. I just guffawed when I read that Q review and wanted to comment.

Better get me coat I guess.
Laz69
Known user
Posts: 2632
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:09 am
Location: Scotland
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by Laz69 »

No disrespect to anyone here or their musical tastes, but i'm still struggling to believe that there has been 11 pages of discussion on the Spiritualized forum regarding Liam Gallagher's new band... :shock: :lol:

Mark, will you grab my coat too... ? Ta... :wink:
TheWarmth
Known user
Posts: 3959
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Chicago, IL
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by TheWarmth »

Don't blame me, I start threads now and again about lesser known acts and they rarely make it to a second page. I tried to get people to check out Violens, whose 2010 album I rate among my top 10 of the year, but I'm pretty sure the only person that looked into them was Modlab. Perhaps it just comes down to the fact that EVERYONE has an opinion about Oasis.
jadams501
Known user
Posts: 1261
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:51 am

Re: Beady Eye

Post by jadams501 »

A lot of the discussion has been about britpop, what's necessary for a good band, philosophy of music, etc. -- for which a band that everyone knows is a good starting point. So it's not surprising that Oasis, Radiohead, Verve, Nirvana, etc. tend to spark longer threads than newer acts that fewer people have heard.
MODLAB
Site Admin
Posts: 2320
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 6:52 pm
Location: Stuck in a spacetime interval.
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by MODLAB »

TheWarmth wrote:I tried to get people to check out Violens, whose 2010 album I rate among my top 10 of the year, but I'm pretty sure the only person that looked into them was Modlab. Perhaps it just comes down to the fact that EVERYONE has an opinion about Oasis.
That Violens album is great and in my top 10 also. With all this new new brooklyn wave scene going nuts I find them the most refreshing and original.

As for Beady Eye, the album is a good fun album and perfect for a party. Not some kind of album to sit and sip wine too.

M
Design.
Already There
Known user
Posts: 444
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:57 am
Location: Berlin, Germany
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by Already There »

TheWarmth wrote:Don't blame me, I start threads now and again about lesser known acts and they rarely make it to a second page. I tried to get people to check out Violens, whose 2010 album I rate among my top 10 of the year, but I'm pretty sure the only person that looked into them was Modlab. Perhaps it just comes down to the fact that EVERYONE has an opinion about Oasis.
:lol: Very true.

Yeah, lesser known bands always have bigger problems to catch people's attention.
W: What are we supposed to do with that?
M: Eat it.
W: Eat it? Fucker’s alive.
M: Yeah, you’ve got to kill it.
W: Me? I’m the firelighter and fuel collector.

Gigs 2010: http://www.last.fm/user/Colin_in_Mexico/events/2010
Laz69
Known user
Posts: 2632
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:09 am
Location: Scotland
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by Laz69 »

TheWarmth wrote:Don't blame me, I start threads now and again about lesser known acts and they rarely make it to a second page. I tried to get people to check out Violens, whose 2010 album I rate among my top 10 of the year, but I'm pretty sure the only person that looked into them was Modlab. Perhaps it just comes down to the fact that EVERYONE has an opinion about Oasis.
Its cool and i am all for healthy discussions... just teasing! :D
Kurious Oranj
Known user
Posts: 308
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:56 am

Re: Beady Eye

Post by Kurious Oranj »

haters gonna hate
sunray
Known user
Posts: 3131
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:07 pm

Re: Beady Eye

Post by sunray »

TheWarmth wrote:Don't blame me, I start threads now and again about lesser known acts and they rarely make it to a second page. I tried to get people to check out Violens, whose 2010 album I rate among my top 10 of the year, but I'm pretty sure the only person that looked into them was Modlab.
Sorry Warmth, i checked out Violens when you mentioned them but found them to be such a massive insult to my ears i thought it best to keep my counsel. Guess i've just blown that! :)
Nineteen...Nineteen...Six Five
jack white
Known user
Posts: 1710
Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:29 pm
Location: Tralfamadore

Re: Beady Eye

Post by jack white »

so...

the album's leaked..

best oasis album since '97..

album is waaaaaaaay out of date..

but still album's packed with decent singles that wouldn't shame oasis..

lp's far far far far too long & samey of course but a fine 'first' effort! should do better next time.
liam sounds fuckin up fer it.. sounds better than he has all century..
gonna burn brightly
for a while
jadams501
Known user
Posts: 1261
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:51 am

Re: Beady Eye

Post by jadams501 »

jack white wrote:best oasis album since '97..

album is waaaaaaaay out of date..

but still album's packed with decent singles that wouldn't shame oasis..

lp's far far far far too long & samey of course but a fine 'first' effort! should do better next time.
liam sounds fuckin up fer it.. sounds better than he has all century..
Gotta disagree. I'd put this album significantly behind even Heathen Chemistry. There are a handful of pretty good songs, but nothing even as good as Liam's better material from the last several Oasis albums, and certainly nothing of the caliber of The Turning or Shock of the Lightning,

I like the general "classic rock" vibe of the album, which is even more retro than Oasis ever was, and Liam sings with more consistent conviction than he's mustered for a while, but the whole album strikes me as generic and faceless. It sounds like generic stock music that might be played in a scene in a TV show to signify "rawk" if a teenage character was being rebellious and skulking in their bedroom or something.

The bottom line is that the best of this album might have been solid album tracks or B-sides for an Oasis record, but that Liam just doesn't cut it on his own.
Kurious Oranj
Known user
Posts: 308
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:56 am

Re: Beady Eye

Post by Kurious Oranj »

definitely not better than any oasis album imo. the lack of noel is immediately felt. he has a way with words and tunes that this clearly doesn't. it's hard to escape the idea that it all feels a bit generic.

that being said it's still enjoyable to listen to for the most part and it's got a couple good tunes.

it's not nearly as offensive as some of those shitty one-offs from the 90s like the seahorses or whatever.

although whether this is a one off remains to be seen
bunnyben
Known user
Posts: 2676
Joined: Fri May 12, 2006 8:49 pm
Location: inside aimless privacy

Re: Beady Eye

Post by bunnyben »

i was reading an interview with liam and gem and they said they all went away to write their own songs and all came back sounding like the beatles...
'raging and weeping are left on the early road
now each in his holy hill
the glittering and hurting days are alomst done
then let us compare mythologies
i have learned my elaborate lie
of soaring crosses and poisened thorns'
niamhm
Known user
Posts: 1894
Joined: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:07 pm

Re: Beady Eye

Post by niamhm »

enjoying listening ,chewing gum for your ears, unlike the last Oasis album it doesn`t drop off 2/3 of the way through ,maybe 2 songs to long or something ,only listened 4 or 5 times ,seems quite alot of Who influences,Sharrocks drumming is much better than whats on most Oasis albums adds some swing.

kinda Sound Track Of Your Life sounding ,if you like 60`s psychedelic thats a good thing.

ps. just noticed Standing On The Edge Of The Noise sounds like Lupine Howl.
jadams501
Known user
Posts: 1261
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:51 am

Re: Beady Eye

Post by jadams501 »

From the NME review at http://www.nme.com/reviews/beady-eye/11874 :

The psych peaks with the six-minute ‘Wigwam’, about an early morning stumble home which surrounds its booze blues in an Eastern drone, but then lifts itself out of self-pity with a gospel climax that aims for Spiritualized heights of Hosanna and nearly damn gets there."

Not bloody likely!
ORBITAL
Known user
Posts: 1249
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Drinking Breaker at night, in the cold duchess light.

Re: Beady Eye

Post by ORBITAL »

I like this.

Its about 3 songs too long, but a decent effort.

Agree with Niahm about the SOOL opinion. I loved 'Behind the music', so this appeals to my taste.

Wearing the influences on the sleeve doesn't offend me as long as the tunes are there.

It's definitely not an Oasis album, who I can take or leave.

OrBitAl
Work is the scourge of the drinking classes
radioshack
Known user
Posts: 453
Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:03 pm
Location: Glasgow
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by radioshack »

I have to admit it's a pretty good album too. Have to put thatt out there, since I was pretty dismissive initially. Kudos to them for making a good album against all the odds. Liam's voice hasn't sounded as good since the 90's. Sounds far more inspired and upbeat.

Seems Andy Bell wrote all the better songs, according to an NME article. A lot of the songs on this record were apparently written years earlier, but subsequently left on the shelf by Noel for being 'too Oasis'. D'oh!
olan
Known user
Posts: 1968
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:42 am
Location: Liverpool

Re: Beady Eye

Post by olan »

There is a review of a Beady Eye gig in The Grauniad: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/ma ... ive-review. (Written by Dave Simpson who I used to trade Joy Division and New Order bootlegs with in the early 1980's, by god). Poor Dave has clearly lost the plot. Oasis were (with the exception of a couple of LPs) average at best. Beady Eye are appalling. However the exchange between Simpson and a couple of commentors on his article is great, particularly the bit about the absence of a deep fried Mars Bars in Glasgow. DS's use of Tally Ho made me laugh too, he is so far from the hunting set it is not true. Shame on him for doing a fluff piece on LG though....
TheWarmth
Known user
Posts: 3959
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Chicago, IL
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by TheWarmth »

Average at best?
jadams501
Known user
Posts: 1261
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:51 am

Re: Beady Eye

Post by jadams501 »

It's got style, but it's paper-thin. Noel is the heart and soul of Oasis.
olan
Known user
Posts: 1968
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:42 am
Location: Liverpool

Re: Beady Eye

Post by olan »

TheWarmth wrote:Average at best?
Yep.
BzaInSpace
Site Admin
Posts: 3864
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: HELL

Bidet? Nay!

Post by BzaInSpace »

I really like it. First track ('Four Letter Word') reminds me of Spiritualized in orchestral/garage mode. Jack (?) said the singing is his best this century - maybe ever?

To me a fresh sounding album, more of a psych-rock thing than anything by...that other band.

The covers of 'Instant Karma!' and 'My Generation' are good also :wink:
ORBITAL wrote: It's definitely not an Oasis* album, who I can take or leave.
Agreed.

However, I'm thinking nothing beats 'Bring The Light' on the album - it kinda towers above the rest.

'Bring The Light'...Still awesome. And still the kind of music Oasis should've been!

Chances are Noel's solo effort will be a bunch of maudlin acoustic tracks with those loveable if reedy vocals. Give me the

BEADY! BEADY! BEADY!

anytime.

Anybody see the Barras shows?

I'm also loving this Beady b-side track floating out there called 'World Outside My Room'. Exceptional...shoulda been on the album! Maudlin acoustic track with really amazing vocals - on initial hearing it doesn't even sound like Liam!

* = honorary Oasis mention for those that note these kind of things.
O P 8
Starfish
Known user
Posts: 1189
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: MidWest, UK

Re: Beady Eye

Post by Starfish »

Chris Sharrock is one of the best drummers I ever saw, during his time with the Icicle Works. He must be in the wrong half of his 40s now, so it's a shame to see him forced to have a Loaded generation haircut just to fit in with the Oasis image.

He also played on Spiritualized's Pure Phase, as well as spells with The La's, World Party, Lightning Seeds, and Robbie Williams (!) before Oasis.
TheWarmth
Known user
Posts: 3959
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Chicago, IL
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by TheWarmth »

Based on all of the positive reviews posted here, I thought I'd give the new album another chance after initially dismissing it. I'm still not very into it. There really aren't many good songs on it, aside from Four-Letter Word, Millionaire and The Beat Goes On. The suggestion that this is a better album than Dig Out Your Soul has me completely and utterly dumbfounded. There is no comparison. There are at least four songs on DOYS that destroy everything on Still Speeding.
bunnyben
Known user
Posts: 2676
Joined: Fri May 12, 2006 8:49 pm
Location: inside aimless privacy

Re: Beady Eye

Post by bunnyben »

from spin mag

'
In August it'll be 20 years since Gallagher and his brother Noel first took the stage as Oasis. It'll be almost two since they broke up backstage in Paris in a shower of guitar splinters. As in a proper divorce, Noel cited Liam's "verbal and violent intimidation." Meanwhile, Liam, 38, took custody of guitarist Gem Archer, bassist Andy Bell (now on guitar), and drummer Chris Sharrock, renamed the group Beady Eye,'
'raging and weeping are left on the early road
now each in his holy hill
the glittering and hurting days are alomst done
then let us compare mythologies
i have learned my elaborate lie
of soaring crosses and poisened thorns'
jadams501
Known user
Posts: 1261
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:51 am

Re: Beady Eye

Post by jadams501 »

TheWarmth wrote:Based on all of the positive reviews posted here, I thought I'd give the new album another chance after initially dismissing it. I'm still not very into it. There really aren't many good songs on it, aside from Four-Letter Word, Millionaire and The Beat Goes On. The suggestion that this is a better album than Dig Out Your Soul has me completely and utterly dumbfounded. There is no comparison. There are at least four songs on DOYS that destroy everything on Still Speeding.
Yeah I gave it another shot, and find long stretches of the album to be dreary and boring, though I like "Wigwam" and "Morning Son" quite a bit alongside Four Letter Word and Bring The Light. There's no comparison to Dig Out Your Soul, though, which was all around a very strong record -- Bag It Up, The Turning, Shock of The Lightning, Falling Down, etc.
niamhm
Known user
Posts: 1894
Joined: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:07 pm

Re: Beady Eye

Post by niamhm »

There's no comparison to Dig Out Your Soul, though, which was all around a very strong record -- Bag It Up, The Turning, Shock of The Lightning, Falling Down, etc.
those are good tracks I`ll give you that ,but their isn`t really any etc. as most of the rest is some of the worst rubbish Oasis ever recorded , 30 min. of quality and then a big bloody let down ,in the second half Falling Down sticks out like an immensely swollen thumb as the only decent thing their ,so not a strong album ,more like a great opportunity missed ,

as for Different Gear ,Still Speeding ,enjoying it immensely, surprisingly, unlike that f8cking Radiohead album!!
jadams501
Known user
Posts: 1261
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:51 am

Re: Beady Eye

Post by jadams501 »

niamhm wrote:
There's no comparison to Dig Out Your Soul, though, which was all around a very strong record -- Bag It Up, The Turning, Shock of The Lightning, Falling Down, etc.
those are good tracks I`ll give you that ,but their isn`t really any etc. as most of the rest is some of the worst rubbish Oasis ever recorded , 30 min. of quality and then a big bloody let down ,in the second half Falling Down sticks out like an immensely swollen thumb as the only decent thing their ,so not a strong album ,more like a great opportunity missed ,

as for Different Gear ,Still Speeding ,enjoying it immensely, surprisingly, unlike that f8cking Radiohead album!!
I'll have to disagree here -- I also like Waiting For The Rapture, Get Off Your High Horse (Lady), and especially The Nature of Reality. There's also something goofy I like about To Be Where There's Life. I'm not very big on Soldier On or Ain't Got Nothing, and actively dislike I'm Outta Time, but it's still a mature and accomplished album that to my ears is far superior to the Beady Eye record.
Kurious Oranj
Known user
Posts: 308
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:56 am

Re: Beady Eye

Post by Kurious Oranj »

falling down... filler? that songs incredible
TheWarmth
Known user
Posts: 3959
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Chicago, IL
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by TheWarmth »

I'm sure some of you here are familiar with "Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulders", right? I'd be happy to listen to an album with songs like this and a few rockers like "Lord Don't Slow Me Down". I'm referencing more recent Noel tracks since that's what we're most likely to when his album comes out. I'm also curious if we'll ever hear studio versions of "Stop The Clocks" or "If I Had A Gun".
bunnyben
Known user
Posts: 2676
Joined: Fri May 12, 2006 8:49 pm
Location: inside aimless privacy

Re: Beady Eye

Post by bunnyben »

TheWarmth wrote:I'm sure some of you here are familiar with "Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulders", right? I'd be happy to listen to an album with songs like this and a few rockers like "Lord Don't Slow Me Down". I'm referencing more recent Noel tracks since that's what we're most likely to when his album comes out. I'm also curious if we'll ever hear studio versions of "Stop The Clocks" or "If I Had A Gun".

http://hotfile.com/dl/111072198/b7d3c23 ... ).mp3.html
'raging and weeping are left on the early road
now each in his holy hill
the glittering and hurting days are alomst done
then let us compare mythologies
i have learned my elaborate lie
of soaring crosses and poisened thorns'
TheWarmth
Known user
Posts: 3959
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Chicago, IL
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by TheWarmth »

Is this the mellow acoustic version? If so, I have that one and to me it just sounds like a rough demo.
bunnyben
Known user
Posts: 2676
Joined: Fri May 12, 2006 8:49 pm
Location: inside aimless privacy

Re: Beady Eye

Post by bunnyben »

TheWarmth wrote:Is this the mellow acoustic version? If so, I have that one and to me it just sounds like a rough demo.
no idea
'raging and weeping are left on the early road
now each in his holy hill
the glittering and hurting days are alomst done
then let us compare mythologies
i have learned my elaborate lie
of soaring crosses and poisened thorns'
jadams501
Known user
Posts: 1261
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:51 am

Re: Beady Eye

Post by jadams501 »

bunnyben wrote:
TheWarmth wrote:Is this the mellow acoustic version? If so, I have that one and to me it just sounds like a rough demo.
no idea
It is the Noel-sung demo that's been floating around for a while -- great recording, thanks.

While it does sound like a rough demo compared to the heavily produced Oasis studio tracks from the last few albums, it sounds immaculate next to a lot of officially released material from the Definitely Maybe years.
Already There
Known user
Posts: 444
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:57 am
Location: Berlin, Germany
Contact:

Re: Beady Eye

Post by Already There »

bunnyben wrote:from spin mag

'
In August it'll be 20 years since Gallagher and his brother Noel first took the stage as Oasis. It'll be almost two since they broke up backstage in Paris in a shower of guitar splinters. As in a proper divorce, Noel cited Liam's "verbal and violent intimidation." Meanwhile, Liam, 38, took custody of guitarist Gem Archer, bassist Andy Bell (now on guitar), and drummer Chris Sharrock, renamed the group Beady Eye,'
Shit, they've split up one and a half years ago... Man, that's such a long time. And even a bit longer for The Verve...
TheWarmth wrote:I'm sure some of you here are familiar with "Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulders", right? I'd be happy to listen to an album with songs like this and a few rockers like "Lord Don't Slow Me Down". I'm referencing more recent Noel tracks since that's what we're most likely to when his album comes out. I'm also curious if we'll ever hear studio versions of "Stop The Clocks" or "If I Had A Gun".
Oh, "Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulders" is such a beautiful song. Yeah, I want an album like that. Definitely.
W: What are we supposed to do with that?
M: Eat it.
W: Eat it? Fucker’s alive.
M: Yeah, you’ve got to kill it.
W: Me? I’m the firelighter and fuel collector.

Gigs 2010: http://www.last.fm/user/Colin_in_Mexico/events/2010
spzretent
Site Admin
Posts: 5587
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Motor City

Re: Beady Eye

Post by spzretent »

I have successfully managed to avoid this band until tonight. I was flipping thru cable tv and they were on this channel called Palladium. Live from the Oxygen Festival.
Not only is their live show boring, they actually seem bored as hell.
And that loudmouth twat is fronting them.
Yecch.
http://www.lilmoxie.com
Detroit, Music, Sports and Other Stuff(including Spiritualized, Spacemen 3)
jadams501
Known user
Posts: 1261
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:51 am

Re: Beady Eye

Post by jadams501 »

I was one who slagged off Beady Eye when it first came out, but I relistened to it for a lark and actually thought it was pretty well-crafted. There are some good songs on it, a few of them are well-executed psychedelia, and a handful of undeniable singles. There's just something infectious about The Roller.

It definitely would have been better with some Noel, and I expect the High Flying Birds to be better than Beady Eye. But it's a pleasant enough little record and better than I expected.
bunnyben
Known user
Posts: 2676
Joined: Fri May 12, 2006 8:49 pm
Location: inside aimless privacy

Re: Beady Eye

Post by bunnyben »

i've not heard the whole album yet but they keep playing songs on the radio at work and so far they've all been so very dull
'raging and weeping are left on the early road
now each in his holy hill
the glittering and hurting days are alomst done
then let us compare mythologies
i have learned my elaborate lie
of soaring crosses and poisened thorns'
spzretent
Site Admin
Posts: 5587
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Motor City

Re: Beady Eye

Post by spzretent »

I never weighed in originally because they are not any band I care about at all. By accident I saw this live segment last night and everyone in the band seemed to be going thru the motions and looked they wanted to anywhere but on stage.
I would be insulted if I paid hard earned money to see this.
http://www.lilmoxie.com
Detroit, Music, Sports and Other Stuff(including Spiritualized, Spacemen 3)
Post Reply