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Yeah - sorry for missing the initial post but it would be greatly appreciated if someone could get these on yousendit or such like...but yousendit would be better as you can download all 3 at once!dougie2027 wrote:Can you please repost the vids - they have expired at yousendit
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The pics themselves look beautiful - are they DV image grabs or photos?
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PS Doggen clearly has his Fender Rhodes mic'd up to an amp (though I'm sure you can DI straight from another output (depending on the model) - seems a curious way of recording, has anyone spoken to the band about the tech side of things?
lol that's called eye for detail!!!mojo filters wrote:[
PS Doggen clearly has his Fender Rhodes mic'd up to an amp (though I'm sure you can DI straight from another output (depending on the model) - seems a curious way of recording, has anyone spoken to the band about the tech side of things?
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There is what looks like a DI in the second picture, just to the right of the right foldback wedge. More than likely he's DI'ing straight into the desk, but also linking back to the amp - I always play like this primarily because it gives extra monitor, something that you generally don't get a lot of as a keyboard player. Doggen has his own wedges there, though, and the amp is miked, so it's most likely that he likes the sound of the Fender through that particular amp (also a Fender?) and wants a certain mix of "wet" and "dry" through the desk.mojo filters wrote:PS Doggen clearly has his Fender Rhodes mic'd up to an amp (though I'm sure you can DI straight from another output (depending on the model) - seems a curious way of recording, has anyone spoken to the band about the tech side of things?
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That sounds about right, I see the DI box. I'm sure a Fender Rhodes outputs a stereo signal, presumably for the vibrato effect. I'd be interested to lnow what sort of amp it is - quite possibly a Fender like you say, maybe a sought-after 70's twin with that distinctive reverb? Don't know whether they ever made fuller range keyboard versions, though you never know - a guitar amp might make great, unique 'wet' sound.ash wrote:There is what looks like a DI in the second picture, just to the right of the right foldback wedge. More than likely he's DI'ing straight into the desk, but also linking back to the amp - I always play like this primarily because it gives extra monitor, something that you generally don't get a lot of as a keyboard player. Doggen has his own wedges there, though, and the amp is miked, so it's most likely that he likes the sound of the Fender through that particular amp (also a Fender?) and wants a certain mix of "wet" and "dry" through the desk.mojo filters wrote:PS Doggen clearly has his Fender Rhodes mic'd up to an amp (though I'm sure you can DI straight from another output (depending on the model) - seems a curious way of recording, has anyone spoken to the band about the tech side of things?
Lucky you for having a proper keyboard amp - when I played keys in bands I was usually sharing a monitor (with no amp) with one guitar and at least one other track, unless we had to do our own monitoring - then I used bits of my own smallish PA which was even more of a pain, with the mixer balancing precariously on the amp which was likewise on a speaker! My 8 channel mixer was reduced to 6 after a few knocks etc.
Ouch, nasty! I don't know what I'd do without some form of separated foldback.mojo filters wrote:Lucky you for having a proper keyboard amp - when I played keys in bands I was usually sharing a monitor (with no amp) with one guitar and at least one other track, unless we had to do our own monitoring - then I used bits of my own smallish PA which was even more of a pain, with the mixer balancing precariously on the amp which was likewise on a speaker! My 8 channel mixer was reduced to 6 after a few knocks etc.
I don't actually have a "proper" keyboard amp - I use a Hiwatt bass amp, which gives a really lovely tone (although it doesn't help at all if you're trying to cut through at the top end!) and plays friendly with all the fx - mostly reverb - I like to use.
(Just got a new Boss rack-mount reverb unit in the post this morning, which should make things even more interesting...)
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Indeed it was far from ideal, however having previously played electric fiddle in a band I was used to having to deal with poor monitoring - for the fiddle the feedback issue (didn't have the fancy EQ devices to eliminate feedback from a seperate monitoring device) made it hard - generally the best way of hearing myself was at small venues where I could walk off the stage and listen through the PA itself, but I played many a gig where I couldn't properly hear myself!ash wrote:Ouch, nasty! I don't know what I'd do without some form of separated foldback.
In fact it wasn't so hard for the keyboard as there's not the same tuning issue as with the fiddle, but played more than once where I literally couldn't hear myself at all (even though I could at the soundcheck, which was always weird) and had to rely on listening to the rest of the band when knocking out bluesy chords and riffs, but it was awful for the supposedly easier bits where I just twiddled knobs controlling various parameters to make spacey analogue sounds in time with the song. Still seemed to go down well with those who could hear it, though I think I owe more credit to the instrument itself and having fought with the sound engineer to get an extra DI box so I got the full stereo effect as that made a real difference.
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If it was 1 x 12" could be the Deluxe Reverb guitar amp, or if it had a 15" speaker could be the Twin Custom which is essentially the very famous Twin Reverb but with extra bass depth from the 15", which would make more sense if used with an electric piano like the Rhodes. On the other hand it's probably some obscure model, never reissued or revered particularly, but has just the right tubes and speaker combo to make something special from a 'wet' Rhodes output!ragmop wrote:the amp used at QEH was a fender not sure which model as I could only see the back of the amp. I can tell you it only had 1 speaker, i'd guess at 12"? The amp was probley similar if not the same as the one jason used for the 'back in your town' jazz stuff earlier in the year.
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I think a challenge is in order to identify this mysterious amp, and also to find out what quality the amp'd output has when mic'd up that adds to the beautiful DI'd output of probably the finest analogue electric piano I know of!
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Had a good look at both Sage and Edinbugh - was badged Fender Champ but had at least 10" speaker - looked old/used so I maybe they used to make othe Champ models rather than the current cheap guitar one, but you never know how such combinations can work when mixed up so could be the guitar model.ragmop wrote:the amp used at QEH was a fender not sure which model as I could only see the back of the amp. I can tell you it only had 1 speaker, i'd guess at 12"? The amp was probley similar if not the same as the one jason used for the 'back in your town' jazz stuff earlier in the year.
Hope this helps