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I have to disagree with the bit in this article where they say that FFF beers aren't noticeably better than those of other breweries like Stone. To me, their beers tower over the majority of the competition. I really love the Stone, Dogfishhead, Dark Horse and Bells beers, but to me FFF is without question a superior brewery.
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Remember, its written by someone in DC. Not exactly a hotbed of craft beers.
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TheWarmth wrote:Yeah, you don't want to hold onto the Alpha Kings for too long. Those should be enjoyed fresh. It was either January or February when we went to FFF.
Easy for you to say. You can go to your fave liquor store and buy it. I cant :evil: . It held up just fine.
A new shop opened around the corner from me. I went in there today because I am out of Two Hearted and asked if there was a State law against selling beers we cant get in Michigan. The owner said yes but there is no law against a sort of trading post idea. I told him give me two days off and I will go just about anywhere. I was looking at the closest big city in Indiana for a Three Floyds run. So we'll see. A bit of gas money would be nice.
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Alan, it very well might be worth it to come all the way to Munster in order to get Zombie Dust and Jinx Proof. I doubt you will be able to buy them anywhere else and they are without question excellent and worth the time and effort. Last time I was at the brewery they said the limit on those two was six cases (insane, considering it's scarce in Chicago). Let me know if you decide to do that.
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If I do this it may well be tomorrow. I have a few days off and they have that Bourbon Moloko Stout on tap. At least as of yesterday. I will check again today. Are you going to Cave Monday night at the Empty Bottle?
Maybe I could make a night out of it.
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Yes, I'll be at the CAVE show. Let me know!
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This discussion prompted me to go thru my cellar.
I am selling all my Bell's Batch 9000, 10,000 and 25th Anniversary.
I'd rather use that cash to load up for the winter with FFF.
I am amazed at what I have in that cellar. A boatload of Dark Horse limited stuff. 3 bottles of KBS, Lots of the regular Founders Breakfast Stout. I should look down there more often.
I'll let you know as soon as I decide.
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It was my wife's birthday yesterday and we went to a bar with a handful of friends. I was drinking Amnesia ESB...still my favorite brewery in Portland. Their Copacetic IPA is unbelievable. Alan and Paul, I wish I could send some to you but they don't bottle it. Guess that means you two will have to come visit me in "Beervana", Oregon!
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I'd love to get out to Portland. Maybe it'll happen in 2012. Also, I think our little midwest territory might challenge yours for the beervana title :) I'm sipping a Bell's Two-Hearted right now.
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Its that time of year again!
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:mrgreen:

Man I'd love a slurp of that stuff...
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Mmmm, how about some PBRs?
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Completely different animal.
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Went to happy hour at my local bar and guess what? They had Hopslam on tap.
Last words i am typing tonight. :shock:
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I suppose that, when i drink, it's mainly to get buzzed rather than to savor the particular qualities of whatever i am consuming. I've really liked a lot of craft beers i've tried, but i've tended to find that with all of the extra ingredients there is a much smaller window between sobriety and feeling nauseated.

So, there have been a lot of things on this thread that i'd like to try, but on a regular basis i'm probably gonna be ok with corona, magic hat #9, or something else in that neighborhood.
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jadams501 wrote:I suppose that, when i drink, it's mainly to get buzzed rather than to savor the particular qualities of whatever i am consuming.
Wow - I am the opposite, but then I work in the wine industry. I can't drink shit wine anymore - I'd rather leave it. You really don't care what it tastes like? Man I wish I could do that - it'd save me a packet.
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Haha it's not that I don't care AT ALL what something tastes like -- I had more than enough experiences in college with boxed wines and diluting hard alcohol with tap water or Capri Sun :roll: -- but when something reaches the point of being "pretty good," where I enjoy drinking it, I don't make it my priority to have something REALLY good, because the buzz is my primary goal.

Not that I'm criticizing any of you alcohol aficionados... when it comes to music, I tend to want the very best even if I enjoy slumming in guilty pleasures from time to time. But with alcohol I am generally fine with the bottle of Skyy rather than Grey Goose, or the 11 dollar bottle of wine rather than the 30 dollar one, or a couple of Heinekens rather than something that will cost more or take more work to find.
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spzretent wrote:Its that time of year again!
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Hope I can score some. It's already sold out at the Grand Ave. Binny's. Ridiculous. My neighborhood liquor store usually gets some, so I will stop by there tonight.

Alan, did you get my last email? I never heard back.
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TheWarmth wrote:
spzretent wrote:Its that time of year again!
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Alan, did you get my last email? I never heard back.
Which one? About February instead of January? Between shutting down Gizmo and being ill most of the holiday I may have missed that.
Plenty of Hopslam around here. Its pretty expensive. $17 to $20 per six pack. Let me know if you need me to pick any up.
It is a particularly shit hangover I must say. Two pints did it.
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Edward VIII coronation beer on display – and it is still drinkable:

Pretty cool! I'm sure some of you have a couple in the basement.

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I scored two cases of Three Floyds Zombie Dust at the brewpub last week. Alan, you really need to come back down. There were a large number of excellent beers I had never had on tap that are not being bottled. They are in the process of expanding their operations, too, which I think is a good thing. Not sure if it'll mean wider distribution, but we will see.
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Yesterday-
Dark Horse Double Crooked Tree IPA
Dark Horse Plead The Fith Imperial Stout
Released.
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Yesterday (and the day before) I was drinking this delicious beer. I can not recall ever trying a beer that tasted anything like this one. Stunning.

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where?
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In London.
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Interesting that barrels are now in the UK.
They are a damn good brewery.
I am lucky to have them relatively local.
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The bar owners has somehow managed to get exclusive beers to the UK. It's not like they will be made widely available over here. For example, Mikkeller brew a house beer for them. They have 37 draught beers available, 16 UK cask ales and the rest on keg are sourced worldwide. And over 200 bottled beers.
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Founders Breakfast Stout, Dark Horse Perkulator Coffee Dopplebock and Special Black Bier plus some from Shorts.
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Shaun wrote:Founders Breakfast Stout, Dark Horse Perkulator Coffee Dopplebock and Special Black Bier plus some from Shorts.
I'm a big fan of Breakfast Stout. Perkulator is great, too. You will enjoy those immensely, I expect.
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Founders Breakfast Stout is the best non barrel aged stout in Michigan. Its fantastic.
The craziness begins with Kentucky(Bourbon barrel aged) Breakfast Stout and multiply that by 10 for the Canadian(Maple Syrup barrel aged) Breakfast Stout.
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TheWarmth wrote: I'm a big fan of Breakfast Stout.  Perkulator is great, too.  You will enjoy those immensely, I expect.
spzretent wrote:Founders Breakfast Stout is the best non barrel aged stout in Michigan. Its fantastic.
It's going to be interesting to see how it compares to the Mikkeller Breakfast Stouts and the new-kid-on-the-block-brewer-over-here version, The Kernel.
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please let us know.
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Well the Mikkeller Beer Geek Breakfast was very, very good.

As was this....

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From somewhere that I wish I was at...

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I know that place. That blackboard!
I was just out thrifting. I stopped at several local liquor/beer shops to buy single $1 Mega Millions lottery tickets(jackpot over $300 Million).
Once again let me say how lucky I am to live in this state.
I found a 4 pack of Founders Breakfast Stout which was supposed to be gone by early January.
Just looking at the Michigan beers is nuts. I rarely buy anything else.
What sucks are those shops that overcharge for the limited stuff. $25 for a 4 pack of Dark Horse Double Crooked Tree is a joke.
There are 5 or 6 that stand out from all the rest. Bell's, Founders, Dark Horse, Jolly Pumpkin, Shorts and Right Brain which doesn't bottle unfortunately but they make great beer.
If you were still looking at coming over for Spiritualized shows Chicago, Detroit and exactly half way between is Bells with Dark Horse right on the way too. Actually so is Three Floyds. Founders is an hour out of the way.
That would make one great trip.
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spzretent wrote:If you were still looking at coming over for Spiritualized shows Chicago, Detroit and exactly half way between is Bells with Dark Horse right on the way too. Actually so is Three Floyds. Founders is an hour out of the way.
That would make one great trip.
I've had to cancel all plans of seeing Spiritualized stateside this May as I've now got a ticket to see Portishead in the south of France. Personally, I'd prefer to see them over Spiritualized. But you're right, that would of been a great trip.

I contacted a store in the USA regarding shipping to the UK as I was curious if they shipped internationally and how much it might be. Stunned by a quote of $200 shipping alone for 12 bottles.
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that is outrageous.
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If I found a store with a fair and reasonable rate I'd consider doing it as a one off stand alone order, but yeah, that is outrageous.
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Or was you on about seeing Portishead over Spiritualized :lol:
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both :wink:
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well, i finally got to try Hopslam at a gastropub in Bethlehem, PA called The Mint.

i liked it, but honestly - i wasn't blown away, and i wouldnt spend what a case demands.

our PA Weyerbacher has a fantastic double simcoe IPA that tastes as good as Hopslam to me.
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/392/30288

even closer to home & i know a member of the Fegley family is Hop'solutely Triple IPA
http://www.thebrewworks.com/brews/flags ... riple-ipa/

or Hop Explosion if you're not up to 11.5%
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I have had quite a few double IPA's in my time and nothing approaches Hopslam in that it is brewed with honey and takes the edge off and gives it a sweet finish. Making it different than your average double or triple IPA.
If you live around here Hoplsam is $18 per six pack which is reasonable. Just bought one yesterday.
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Shaun wrote:I've had to cancel all plans of seeing Spiritualized stateside this May as I've now got a ticket to see Portishead in the south of France. Personally, I'd prefer to see them over Spiritualized. But you're right, that would of been a great trip.
Shame you'll miss Spiritualized Shaun but that Portishead show looks like it's gonna be extra special indeed. Plus, I hear the wine around there is pretty amazing...
Shaun wrote:I contacted a store in the USA regarding shipping to the UK as I was curious if they shipped internationally and how much it might be. Stunned by a quote of $200 shipping alone for 12 bottles.
:shock: It would be cheaper to brew your own... there's an idea. :!:
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By the time you've purchased all the equipment, learned the craft and brewed a beer as good as Hopslam (if you ever get there), you will have exponentially more than $250 or whatever the cost is to get a case imported to the UK. A friend of mine is a very enthusiastic brewer. When he started I assisted him, but I did not enjoy the process and decided to let him go forward on his own. I'd much rather just go to my local beer shop.
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spzretent wrote:I have had quite a few double IPA's in my time and nothing approaches Hopslam in that it is brewed with honey and takes the edge off and gives it a sweet finish. Making it different than your average double or triple IPA.
If you live around here Hoplsam is $18 per six pack which is reasonable. Just bought one yesterday.
That's awesome that you can still get it. It's long gone in Chicago. Three Floyds' seasonal red ale, Brian Boru, is out now and I've been digging that quite a bit.
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Weird things are popping up in even weirder places. The liquor shop on my corner has a fully stocked cooler. They had at least 1 six pack left as of yesterday. I dont think that is the type of place that sells many $18 six packs.
I have seen Double Crooked Tree this week and Plead The Fifth from Dark Horse too. PTF was priced right at $16/4 pack but Double Crooked Tree they had for $25/4 pack which was a rip off.
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spzretent wrote:Weird things are popping up in even weirder places. The liquor shop on my corner has a fully stocked cooler. They had at least 1 six pack left as of yesterday. I dont think that is the type of place that sells many $18 six packs.
I have seen Double Crooked Tree this week and Plead The Fifth from Dark Horse too. PTF was priced right at $16/4 pack but Double Crooked Tree they had for $25/4 pack which was a rip off.
$25 for a 4-pack of anything is insane. I think that's what Founders Devil Dancer cost last year and I was really irritated when I saw that.
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TheWarmth wrote:By the time you've purchased all the equipment, learned the craft and brewed a beer as good as Hopslam (if you ever get there), you will have exponentially more than $250 or whatever the cost is to get a case imported to the UK...
Er, I was actually just making a joke with reference to the absurdly high cost Shaun was quoted...
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I hoarded those two Dark Horse beers last year so I still have a lot. And they both cellar well. I'm good there.
You just know when shops like that price like that they are not to be patronized.
Same shop will sell bottles of KBS for $10 instead of $5 like everyone else does.
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BzaInSpace wrote:
TheWarmth wrote:By the time you've purchased all the equipment, learned the craft and brewed a beer as good as Hopslam (if you ever get there), you will have exponentially more than $250 or whatever the cost is to get a case imported to the UK...
Er, I was actually just making a joke with reference to the absurdly high cost Shaun was quoted...
I figured, but a lot of people do go into home brewing thinking that they're going to save a ton of money. In the long run, some people do, but many wind up spending a lot of time and money only to wind up with average to mediocre home-brewed beer.
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For the first time in ages I bought a 4 pack of Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA.
It is pretty effin' amazing.
Its ticking all the boxes tonight.
It takes a lot for me to but a non Michigan beer.
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spzretent wrote:For the first time in ages I bought a 4 pack of Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA.
It is pretty effin' amazing.
Its ticking all the boxes tonight.
It takes a lot for me to but a non Michigan beer.
I haven't had this in a long time, either. The 60 Min. doesn't do much for me, but I recall the 90 Min. being good and the 120 Min. really, really intense.
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Re: Bell's Hopslam in the UK- A 10% Michigan IPA

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I tried 6 different Dark Horse beers over the weekend, 4 on keg and 2 bottled. And there was another bottle available but it was over 10% in strength so I swerved that one.
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Re: Bell's Hopslam in the UK- A 10% Michigan IPA

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Thats a lot of Dark Horse. The high % ones can be fantastic. Especially Double Crooked Tree and Plead The Fifth imperial stout.
I am going there Friday on the way home from Chicago after the Spiritualized show. Bell's on the way out, Dark Horse on the way home. With a stop in Indiana to stock up on Three Floyds somewhere in between.
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Re: Bell's Hopslam in the UK- A 10% Michigan IPA

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So I am settling down to my first Three Floyds- Zombie Dust. Yeowzza. I was expecting some a bit more dull than this based on its description. A nice surprise. More akin to an IPA than a regular pale ale.
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Re: Bell's Hopslam in the UK- A 10% Michigan IPA

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I'm addicted to Zombie Dust. It's my go-to beer now. I buy a case every time I go to FFF. Let me know what you think of the Rye'd The Lightning.
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I didnt get that one unless that is the $15 bomber they sell there. My go to is still Bells Two Hearted. Thats hard to beat for an IPA.
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Oh, ok, then you must have bought Live A Rich Life in a bomber, right? I haven't had that yet, but might pick one up this weekend.

I love Two-Hearted, but it's too high in alcohol content for it to be my go-to, everyday beer.
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I guess living in Michigan I hve built up my tolerance. :lol:
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Stopped in Three Floyds today to get carry out. Those dudes are PRINTING MONEY. There was a line to get to the line to order carry out. No fucking kidding. I had to stand in a short line at the entrance for about 10 minutes before I was able to move through the brewpub to the next line where I waited about 15 minutes before I got to place my order. Crazy. Anyway, I was picking up some beer for a friend as well as myself and wound up with the following:

Rye'd Da Lightning x 2 bombers - rye pale ale - AMAZING. I love this stuff.
Arctic Panzer Wolf x 3 bombers - imperial pale ale - These were for a friend, but I wish I could have afforded to buy some for myself. Super refreshing considering the 9.5% alcohol content.
Live A Rich Life x 1 - belgian style imperial pale ale - Haven't tried this yet, but looking forward to it. Alan, did you crack yours? Kinda pricey at $15 a bomber.
Alpha King - full case - Classic FFF flagship beer. Can't go wrong. Interestingly, I can save myself $15 per case by purchasing through the brewpub. In Chicago, I pay between $12 and 13 per six pack of FFF beer. Cases are $35 at the brewpub.

The only bummer was the fact that Zombie Dust was sold out. The guy working the door told me that a group of five guys came in and bought the maximum (6 cases per person) and wiped them out. Annoying. I was also told that FFF does not distribute Zombie Dust, other than to select bars in kegs. This means that the liquor store on Chicago Ave. in Humbolt Park is selling ZD in six packs illegally. I wonder if it was them that came in and bought 30 fucking cases.
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I was in Cincinnati this weekend for a few Detroit Tigers vs Reds baseball games and found the following:
Green Flash- Palate Wrecker and Le Freak
Alltech's- Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Aged Ale
Sixpoint- Resin in these really cool Red Bull style cans from Brooklyn. None available in Michigan that I know of.
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Burnside Brewery - IPA

Amnesia, Burnside and Captured By Porches remain my three favorite Portland ales. Just so good.

I would love to get these three brews out to you guys. They need to be tasted and enjoyed beyond this city.
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Palate Wrecker is great. I think most of the Green Flash beers are quite good.
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Re: Bell's Hopslam in the UK- A 10% Michigan IPA

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Palate Wrecker is an apt name. I had to move to lager after that one.
Found a few 4 packs of Great lakes Lake Erie Monster today. That stuff is amazing. even though its from Cleveland :P
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