Someone once told me if I was in a pub never to bring up the subjects of religion or politics,which was good advice, I once saw one of my friends have a bar stool thrown at him for some loose talk during the 84` miners strike and a fast exit was hastily made ,he obviously hadn`t heard the same advice or the drink had dulled his senses ,but anyway ,the same period/time helped to frame my political opinions for the next 25 y.rs or so , local ,european ,national I never failed to excercise my right ,but this time .... none of the parties are really opening up and saying what they`ll do ,oh they hint thats cuts are coming but nobodies giving their true intentions away and for the first time I`m seriously considering not voting ,theirs no left or right just a confusing mirror image ,you couldn`t put a cigarette paper between c8nts,all I can see is a bunch political professionals hungry for power ,a bunch of incompetent chancers on one side and priveledged ningcompoops on the other ,both vying for my vote ,what a choice !
Compared to the past I now seem to be older or the same age as most of the c8nts that are so full of their own importance that they consider them selves fit to run the country and I just can`t help looking at them with contempt,both sides left and right ,I think my problem is that I don`t think they have a principle between them ,oh they say they do ,spout them of this next few months or so ,but will they act on them given the power 4months from now? will they fuck! this is what my experience is telling me,what a depressing thought .
Election year.
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Labour. Like you say, it's really hard to see what would benefit the country at the moment. That said, I think it's much better to stick with Labour and let them carry on with what they're doing and try and sort us out. I much prefer them to any other party likely to get in power. Any vote not for the BNP is a victory at the moment.
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labour are not torries, that's enough for me, plus minimum wage, deprivateise the nhs. though i saw in a film a character say to himself 'when a man has something to loose he becomes a conservative'. interesting thought
'raging and weeping are left on the early road
now each in his holy hill
the glittering and hurting days are alomst done
then let us compare mythologies
i have learned my elaborate lie
of soaring crosses and poisened thorns'
now each in his holy hill
the glittering and hurting days are alomst done
then let us compare mythologies
i have learned my elaborate lie
of soaring crosses and poisened thorns'
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Absolutely agree with the OP.
It's disgusting to think we are going to poll soon without a fucking clue where the different parties lie. Well lie is a start.
I can't begin to tell you how disgusted I feel when I take a minute and look around and think for a bit.
The entire system needs a huge shake-up...unfortunately I'm stuck for ideas. Although I'm having leaning towards some sort of totalitarian rule until this country takes notice.
Democracy aint working and more often than not is putting it in the hands (and fingertips) of idiots.
This totalitarianism would not be founded on any idealogy of race struggle or class stuggle but more so on invigorating the country; having every fcuker contribute, everyone housed and everyone educated (to a degree). It wouldn't work for any length of time because as humans we'll always want more...more freedom, more choice, more self-indulgence and in addition there is a need for idiots and layabouts and homelessness and unemployment just as much as there is a need for government.
Without something to "be fixed" there is nowt "to fix".
Same with war; all these anti-war protesters and such like make my skin crawl. Why do we hav a fcukin army, navy & airforce? There primary objective is to be the connecting blow at the request of a minsterial tongue. Sure we're at war right now and dress it up how you will a fcukin illegal war but people need to respect that if you have a tool for war; it will/can be used. I watched in awe as Tony told Chilcot how overnight (and to paraphrase; "almost in a dream") the threat of Saddam grew as a result of 911. Talk about jumping on the fcuking bandwagon and getting involved in someone elses grief or gripe.
Keeps me up at night, all this
B,
S.
It's disgusting to think we are going to poll soon without a fucking clue where the different parties lie. Well lie is a start.
I can't begin to tell you how disgusted I feel when I take a minute and look around and think for a bit.
The entire system needs a huge shake-up...unfortunately I'm stuck for ideas. Although I'm having leaning towards some sort of totalitarian rule until this country takes notice.
Democracy aint working and more often than not is putting it in the hands (and fingertips) of idiots.
This totalitarianism would not be founded on any idealogy of race struggle or class stuggle but more so on invigorating the country; having every fcuker contribute, everyone housed and everyone educated (to a degree). It wouldn't work for any length of time because as humans we'll always want more...more freedom, more choice, more self-indulgence and in addition there is a need for idiots and layabouts and homelessness and unemployment just as much as there is a need for government.
Without something to "be fixed" there is nowt "to fix".
Same with war; all these anti-war protesters and such like make my skin crawl. Why do we hav a fcukin army, navy & airforce? There primary objective is to be the connecting blow at the request of a minsterial tongue. Sure we're at war right now and dress it up how you will a fcukin illegal war but people need to respect that if you have a tool for war; it will/can be used. I watched in awe as Tony told Chilcot how overnight (and to paraphrase; "almost in a dream") the threat of Saddam grew as a result of 911. Talk about jumping on the fcuking bandwagon and getting involved in someone elses grief or gripe.
Keeps me up at night, all this
B,
S.
Re: Election year.
Apologies for blurting some more on this topic but it is a topic that stirs me.
I said previously that our current form of government appears to be innefective; sure it's effective in part but it has caused much divisionism in all of us. Perhaps I come from the viewpoint (and an idyllic one at that, probably) of a long time ago; where people worked, gathered, hunted, nurtured and raised. Now whilst the societies and communities in which we live have changed, have people really changed? My own first instinct is to provide for myself and my kids; be that in the form of a home, food, clothing and education or lifeskills. Basically, so by the time they're 18 (or abouts) they have had the tools required too look after themselves.
Now; imagine children with 3 (or possibly more) Dads or Mums offering them different ways in which to "grow up" or be nurtured. A simple analogy would be Dad No.1 saying "don't touch the fire" Dad No. 2 saying "touch the fire if you want" and Dad No. 3 saying "touch the fire". This leaves "choice" with the child. Sure the majority of children would understand that red means danger or that the heat sends a warning but what of the children who don't.
Options and choice are wonderful things but as soon as you offer them, opposition appears. It is opposition that slows the natural progression to a stable state. The majority of people want the same things; mainly security wether it be walking the streets, employment or financially etc etc. With democracy the common "wants" will always be affected by differing idealogies as to what the "wants" should be. Whereas with a singular rule; "wants" can be achieved. Much like the singular Dad or Mum who raises the child as it experinces it's first political society; the family.
I'm sure most people will baulk at the thought of a form of totalitarianism in GB but take 5mins too appreciate that you've been told what to do most of your liffe. Without orders and direction; parents, teacher, boss where would we be? Sure we all "get" to make choices; who we get our energy supply from, who we bank with, what we drink, what we wear, what we eat etc etc etc. Or do we? Brand is king and competion sits feeding it grapes on the side. Both of these are nice little sidelines in the "freedom" that democratic rule seduces us with.
ach, who knows it's all pie in the sky really.
B,
S.
I said previously that our current form of government appears to be innefective; sure it's effective in part but it has caused much divisionism in all of us. Perhaps I come from the viewpoint (and an idyllic one at that, probably) of a long time ago; where people worked, gathered, hunted, nurtured and raised. Now whilst the societies and communities in which we live have changed, have people really changed? My own first instinct is to provide for myself and my kids; be that in the form of a home, food, clothing and education or lifeskills. Basically, so by the time they're 18 (or abouts) they have had the tools required too look after themselves.
Now; imagine children with 3 (or possibly more) Dads or Mums offering them different ways in which to "grow up" or be nurtured. A simple analogy would be Dad No.1 saying "don't touch the fire" Dad No. 2 saying "touch the fire if you want" and Dad No. 3 saying "touch the fire". This leaves "choice" with the child. Sure the majority of children would understand that red means danger or that the heat sends a warning but what of the children who don't.
Options and choice are wonderful things but as soon as you offer them, opposition appears. It is opposition that slows the natural progression to a stable state. The majority of people want the same things; mainly security wether it be walking the streets, employment or financially etc etc. With democracy the common "wants" will always be affected by differing idealogies as to what the "wants" should be. Whereas with a singular rule; "wants" can be achieved. Much like the singular Dad or Mum who raises the child as it experinces it's first political society; the family.
I'm sure most people will baulk at the thought of a form of totalitarianism in GB but take 5mins too appreciate that you've been told what to do most of your liffe. Without orders and direction; parents, teacher, boss where would we be? Sure we all "get" to make choices; who we get our energy supply from, who we bank with, what we drink, what we wear, what we eat etc etc etc. Or do we? Brand is king and competion sits feeding it grapes on the side. Both of these are nice little sidelines in the "freedom" that democratic rule seduces us with.
ach, who knows it's all pie in the sky really.
B,
S.
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Re: Election year.
Gordon Brown seems to have had difficulty getting an election
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Are those not his kids?ORBITAL wrote:Gordon Brown seems to have had difficulty getting an election
Nineteen...Nineteen...Six Five
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Its kinda funny the idea of Brown effin`and jeffin,apparently capable of slapping people around ,this kinda smearing is with us for the next few months.
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Aye, a personality election. Forget the policies...there's none anyway.niamhm wrote:Its kinda funny the idea of Brown effin`and jeffin,apparently capable of slapping people around ,this kinda smearing is with us for the next few months.
Sad when elections are won on habit, personality or "best of an awful bunch".
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Re: Election year.
You lot in the UK are getting off lightly. We have Federal, State AND Local elections this year. Thats three hefty helpings of shite for most of us Australians 
. To make matters worse, if you don't show up to vote you get fined....
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olan wrote:You lot in the UK are getting off lightly. We have Federal, State AND Local elections this year. Thats three hefty helpings of shite for most of us Australians
You're allowed to spoil your ballot if you decide that there's nobody worth voting for though, aren't you?
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Yes, all you are legally obliged to do is turn up to the polling booth. Unfortunately some of these campaigns are likely to run until November in Melbourne, meaning that this will be a veery, very tedious year.....mkb wrote:olan wrote:You lot in the UK are getting off lightly. We have Federal, State AND Local elections this year. Thats three hefty helpings of shite for most of us Australians
You're allowed to spoil your ballot if you decide that there's nobody worth voting for though, aren't you?
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I think a "none of the above " box would be a good addition to the ballot paper,especially this year.
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Only if it meant an "outcome" would be; as a result of ticking that box.niamhm wrote:I think a "none of the above " box would be a good addition to the ballot paper,especially this year.
I'm still not sure what Brown is waiting for...perhaps everyone to get sick of Cameron. That or the Queen popping her clogs whereby he might get an extended six months.
To whet your whistle; here's something from the Labour Party's Constitution
It's from '95...just so you get an idea of how far we've come!Clause IV wrote:‘The Labour Party is a democratic socialist party. It believes that by the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more than we achieve alone, so as to create for each of us the means to realise our true potential and for all of us a community in which power, wealth and opportunity are in the hands of the many, not the few.’
I've taken about a week too look through the Tory policies and draft manifesto's...too much information. Too many aims and too little immediacy actions.
The 34 page page pdf on localism policy was mind-blowing. They want to empower the local councils. My opinion on local councillors is that they are a pair of ray bans off being gangsters!
All in all; with the majority of policy proposals and manifestos, the country is going to be changed through a variety of adjectives.
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good to see The Sun running true to form, a story about a Victoria Cross winner who want`s to "knock Brown out " for fidgeting during a 2 min. silence last year ,they`ve kept that one for a while ,wonder what other shit they`ve got up their sleeve ,what with their colours firmly nailed to the Tory mast ,the muck is about to fly you can bet.
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Lib Dem for me. My local MP was untouched by the expenses scandal and is a local fellow, not a career politician. He'll vote against the party line if it's in the local interest and has voted the way I'd want on almost every issue he's voted on. He opposed the war in Iraq, campaigned vigourously for an inquiry into it, has campaigned hard fro more transparency with regard to expenses and splits his tijem between parliament and constituency really well. He's defending an 800 majority from a Tory who is the daughter of a peer and who stood somewhere in Wales last time round. She is only standing here because the family mansion is in a village not far from here and because they think it's an easy win. She's been a party member since the age of 11 or something crazy and already has one eye on a cabinet post. Her campaign has consisted of little more than "Vote for me if you don't want to return Gordon Brown to power" and posing for photos with the odd farmer in order to prove her credentials as a "real Somerset girl". She's a timely reminder of everything I loathe about the Tory party. I've not voted since 1997 but the combination of incumbent and opposition here has actually got me off my arse and out campaigning.
Find out what your MP has been up to:
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/
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http://www.theyworkforyou.com/
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Just about forced myself to stay awake throught the latest party leaders debate ( gave up on the last one after about 20 min.)and ah... still see my vote not being used , lib/dem`s have no chance in my area, so for me its a choice between a standing Lab. candidate of 13 yrs. or a Tory in a pretty close seat ,as a local goverment employee I probably should go for Labour in view of expected Tory cuts ,but god it would make me sick to have to vote Labour again after the last 5 yrs. god its a bloody depressing choice ,
anybody have any thoughts on proportinal representation? the chance of a hung parliment seems to have brought some minds in the media into sharp focus on Nick Clegg and the chance of a Lib/Lab goverment, the shit storm really blew in Cleggs direction in the right wing press this morning in lieu of tonights debate most predictable but still amusing, If Lib/lab gov. cut a deal on electoral reform politics in this country would be changed for good ,not sure on my thoughts on that.
anybody have any thoughts on proportinal representation? the chance of a hung parliment seems to have brought some minds in the media into sharp focus on Nick Clegg and the chance of a Lib/Lab goverment, the shit storm really blew in Cleggs direction in the right wing press this morning in lieu of tonights debate most predictable but still amusing, If Lib/lab gov. cut a deal on electoral reform politics in this country would be changed for good ,not sure on my thoughts on that.
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The BNP just had their party political broadcast here. Christ. They even had a Sikh guy saying how he 'knew the BNP very well' and encouraged us to vote for them.
The bottom line was Nick Griffin encouraging us to vote BNP as a way of really annoying the other parties. Um... I think I prefer chucking eggs as an idea, although that would way be less offensive than putting my 'X' in the BNP box.
The bottom line was Nick Griffin encouraging us to vote BNP as a way of really annoying the other parties. Um... I think I prefer chucking eggs as an idea, although that would way be less offensive than putting my 'X' in the BNP box.
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Did you read that they had a jar of Marmite in the top corner of the screen but Marmite threatened to sue them so they removed it? Trying to muscle in on the 'love it or hate it' debate I guess.
There are some amusing clips on YouTube of them handing out leaflets to black people and encouraging them to vote BNP, then admitting (when they thought the camera was off) that black people can't join their party anyway. How they got a Sikh involved is a head-scratcher.
There are some amusing clips on YouTube of them handing out leaflets to black people and encouraging them to vote BNP, then admitting (when they thought the camera was off) that black people can't join their party anyway. How they got a Sikh involved is a head-scratcher.
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dante claimed that politics were created in hell so that satan could keep control...which would mean that even politics has become dumbed down!
'raging and weeping are left on the early road
now each in his holy hill
the glittering and hurting days are alomst done
then let us compare mythologies
i have learned my elaborate lie
of soaring crosses and poisened thorns'
now each in his holy hill
the glittering and hurting days are alomst done
then let us compare mythologies
i have learned my elaborate lie
of soaring crosses and poisened thorns'
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Rajinder Singh, the BNP's token Sikh, is a bitter old man whose parents were killed by muslims during the partition of India. He's never dealt with it and has joined the BNP for the sole reason that he hates muslims. Pretty sad, really. I think he's been pretty much excommunicated by the Sikh community.
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The Cowdenbeath Cluncker,gets into hot water for privately calling an old woman spouting off about Eastern Europeans claiming benefits a bigot ,I would have thought more of him if he said it to her face, instead he catch`s wind of a media storm and rushes back to her house to apologize,bloody hell.
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Re: Election year.
runcible wrote:Did you read that they had a jar of Marmite in the top corner of the screen but Marmite threatened to sue them so they removed it? Trying to muscle in on the 'love it or hate it' debate I guess.
There are some amusing clips on YouTube of them handing out leaflets to black people and encouraging them to vote BNP, then admitting (when they thought the camera was off) that black people can't join their party anyway. How they got a Sikh involved is a head-scratcher.
I've watched some of clips. Truly ridiculous but funny, the problem I see is that when times are not well people will end up voting for these idiots and screw up a little balance.
Seems like the Lib/Dems are doing better and better every week.
Need to read more.
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Yes, wouldn't it be far better if politicians actually told it how it is.niamhm wrote:The Cowdenbeath Cluncker,gets into hot water for privately calling an old woman spouting off about Eastern Europeans claiming benefits a bigot ,I would have thought more of him if he said it to her face, instead he catch`s wind of a media storm and rushes back to her house to apologize,bloody hell.
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Would have been even funnier had it not been a week prior to election day, thus becoming a golden opportunity for the Tories, or worse, the scumbag (british) nationalists...
He could have said much worse to be honest. Shades of Brasseye?
And at least he apologised (clumsily ...although in person)....
Bl**r would have just had the "bigoted woman" erased.
He could have said much worse to be honest. Shades of Brasseye?
And at least he apologised (clumsily ...although in person)....
Bl**r would have just had the "bigoted woman" erased.
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So, what's on the cards for tonights debate?
Anyone been swayed by the TV debates?
It's a give n take situation I guess; it gets politic(ian)s access to those who wouldn't/shouldn't have too seek it out but it certainly goes further to dumb us down.
Have they talked about home defence/policing etc yet?
Just wanted to refresh my mind on the kind of bigger "terrorism" type thingys. I seem to recall MI5 sadly lacking in the lead up too 7/7.
They (MI5) passed blame (in terms of being under-resourced) back to the government. Well they've been resourced up now and it seems to be working...or perhaps it's the threat of "Smeato"...as Frankie Boyle sais only a Scot would decide to punch and kick a person who is already on fire. I know we've had debate as to the abolition and refurb of Trident; for me this is a black hole. If MI5 have altered there resources to counter-terrorism why do we still have our warheads fixed on St Petersburg (or wherever)? Iran, Iraq & Korea might have WOMD but moreso they are just babies screaming for milk (or attention). They want to be seen as key players. I'd rather have that money passed to MI5 or wherever than a hulking deterrent...as a start could it get the fcuk out of my country!
Immigration (settlement in particular) and Asylum I don't really have a problem with. To that end I'd like to congratulate the PM on calling a spade a spade. The UK is no longer an industrialising country as far as i'm concerned. In fact I believe it is beyond industrialised and therefore structures and infrastructure are really only reliant on maintenance. The "heavy industry" lot who I empathise with must take that on board. It's far too easy and symptoamtic of many people to co-relate a changing economy requiring different employee skills too immigrants stealing our jobs.
The Tories and Liberals are so very eager to push the idea of green jobs to the fore. I've noticed Labour take a more pragmatic balanced approach to this. This country has not set the heather on fire in terms of green energy. We are in an infant stage regardless of how many windfarms are blossoming; tidal generation and heat source are even further behind. This is why I find stances against Nuclear energy odd. As we are decommisioning sites currently...something in this country we do very well...we are putting people out of work quicker. Bearing in mind we are infant in our green aspirations; what do we do with the disproportionate unemplyment factor that will become?
Education. I've heard chat about cutting class sizes and reducing the power/influence Whitehall has on curriculum. No. Project the future industry of our society and alter the curriculum to suit. Schooling is about preparing children to tackle the future. I'm sure we've all seen studies that x percentage of kids want to be famous/celebrities. WTF?
Housing. Have any of them referred to housing. Affordable housing schemes? What's the average house price...£130K...fag packet calculations with a 10% deposit would result in monthly payments of ~£700 for a first time buyer. I bought a house 8 years ago that is now worth that average price and my initial monthly payments were ~£265. I've since left the house. Unfortunately my annual wage hasn't broken the £50K p/a threshold yet so I can't afford a similar house, now. Gross disproportion between house price increase and salary increase. Now I don't expect the Government to directly act on reducing house prices but they could build some that would indirectly reduce this ridiculous upsurge. I know that the transfer tax for property has gone someway to reducing absurd prices but only at the upper echelons of the property market. Perhaps the ~£20K for every +£1,000,000 property could be replenished into affordable housing. Instead of wherever else it goes. I mean If i was paying that sum to "report" transfer of land ownership; I'd like to know what that money eventually got used for.
Lastly; for an election that absolutely required transparency we've been fed on the usual smoke and mirrors. The cuts deficit being one...was it the IFS that sounded this out.
I dunno how you guys have viewed the campaign to date but Brown has shown the most clarity/pragmatism. A vote for Clegg would be a dangerous objection to the current state of affairs IMO as an orator he's excellent; as someone who could run (or have impact on how the country should be run) he wouldn't make the grade. Cameron; I quite like him, I think he would break a leg trying to do whats best but he's hindered by his parties previous.
A hung or minority government may be best for my own ambitions but I doubt it. I want a completly devolved Scottish government and then a participatory democracy. As a small nation (Scotland) I think a form of E-government with local parliament would be suitable but that might be a pipe dream.
Good stuff, though.
B,
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Anyone been swayed by the TV debates?
It's a give n take situation I guess; it gets politic(ian)s access to those who wouldn't/shouldn't have too seek it out but it certainly goes further to dumb us down.
Have they talked about home defence/policing etc yet?
Just wanted to refresh my mind on the kind of bigger "terrorism" type thingys. I seem to recall MI5 sadly lacking in the lead up too 7/7.
They (MI5) passed blame (in terms of being under-resourced) back to the government. Well they've been resourced up now and it seems to be working...or perhaps it's the threat of "Smeato"...as Frankie Boyle sais only a Scot would decide to punch and kick a person who is already on fire. I know we've had debate as to the abolition and refurb of Trident; for me this is a black hole. If MI5 have altered there resources to counter-terrorism why do we still have our warheads fixed on St Petersburg (or wherever)? Iran, Iraq & Korea might have WOMD but moreso they are just babies screaming for milk (or attention). They want to be seen as key players. I'd rather have that money passed to MI5 or wherever than a hulking deterrent...as a start could it get the fcuk out of my country!
Immigration (settlement in particular) and Asylum I don't really have a problem with. To that end I'd like to congratulate the PM on calling a spade a spade. The UK is no longer an industrialising country as far as i'm concerned. In fact I believe it is beyond industrialised and therefore structures and infrastructure are really only reliant on maintenance. The "heavy industry" lot who I empathise with must take that on board. It's far too easy and symptoamtic of many people to co-relate a changing economy requiring different employee skills too immigrants stealing our jobs.
The Tories and Liberals are so very eager to push the idea of green jobs to the fore. I've noticed Labour take a more pragmatic balanced approach to this. This country has not set the heather on fire in terms of green energy. We are in an infant stage regardless of how many windfarms are blossoming; tidal generation and heat source are even further behind. This is why I find stances against Nuclear energy odd. As we are decommisioning sites currently...something in this country we do very well...we are putting people out of work quicker. Bearing in mind we are infant in our green aspirations; what do we do with the disproportionate unemplyment factor that will become?
Education. I've heard chat about cutting class sizes and reducing the power/influence Whitehall has on curriculum. No. Project the future industry of our society and alter the curriculum to suit. Schooling is about preparing children to tackle the future. I'm sure we've all seen studies that x percentage of kids want to be famous/celebrities. WTF?
Housing. Have any of them referred to housing. Affordable housing schemes? What's the average house price...£130K...fag packet calculations with a 10% deposit would result in monthly payments of ~£700 for a first time buyer. I bought a house 8 years ago that is now worth that average price and my initial monthly payments were ~£265. I've since left the house. Unfortunately my annual wage hasn't broken the £50K p/a threshold yet so I can't afford a similar house, now. Gross disproportion between house price increase and salary increase. Now I don't expect the Government to directly act on reducing house prices but they could build some that would indirectly reduce this ridiculous upsurge. I know that the transfer tax for property has gone someway to reducing absurd prices but only at the upper echelons of the property market. Perhaps the ~£20K for every +£1,000,000 property could be replenished into affordable housing. Instead of wherever else it goes. I mean If i was paying that sum to "report" transfer of land ownership; I'd like to know what that money eventually got used for.
Lastly; for an election that absolutely required transparency we've been fed on the usual smoke and mirrors. The cuts deficit being one...was it the IFS that sounded this out.
I dunno how you guys have viewed the campaign to date but Brown has shown the most clarity/pragmatism. A vote for Clegg would be a dangerous objection to the current state of affairs IMO as an orator he's excellent; as someone who could run (or have impact on how the country should be run) he wouldn't make the grade. Cameron; I quite like him, I think he would break a leg trying to do whats best but he's hindered by his parties previous.
A hung or minority government may be best for my own ambitions but I doubt it. I want a completly devolved Scottish government and then a participatory democracy. As a small nation (Scotland) I think a form of E-government with local parliament would be suitable but that might be a pipe dream.
Good stuff, though.
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The Times are endorsing the Modern Conservative party.MODLAB wrote:The Times is endorsing the LIB/Dems... Big blow to Labour. or?
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Guessed wrote:The Times are endorsing the Modern Conservative party.MODLAB wrote:The Times is endorsing the LIB/Dems... Big blow to Labour. or?
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CNN reported wrong then.
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 113404.ece
Still not really apparent as to why...much like America last time...Change at all costs, I guess.
Oh and just be careful when clicking the link...incase you need to pay for it by subscription.
B,
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Still not really apparent as to why...much like America last time...Change at all costs, I guess.
Oh and just be careful when clicking the link...incase you need to pay for it by subscription.
B,
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It's the Guardian who are backing the Lib Dems, although they are encouraging people to vote tactically where necessary to keep the Tories out.
My constituency is pretty safe from the Tories, so I won't have to vote tactically.
My constituency is pretty safe from the Tories, so I won't have to vote tactically.
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Re: Election year.
absolutely fuck all! she hasn't sat her fat ass in the houses of parliament once in the past nine years of being an mp, still manages to claim a small fortune in expenses and allowances though, almost a million quids worth of tax payers money in total! how's that for representation!natty wrote:
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hopefully she'll get the boot this time round 
hey man theres a hole in my nose where all the money goes
Re: Election year.
I have a small MP story.
My local MP is David Curry, a Tory. In November 2008 ago I had serious problems with my phone and broadband - in the end both died and I had just my mobile. BT (for non-Brits that's the UK's main telecommunications company) were absolutely useless and told me it would take until around February 2009 to fix as it was to do with a telegraph pole in the field outside. As it only serves me they couldn't really care but the idea of coping with Christmas shopping and no online facility to order stuff was daunting as the kids all wanted stuff that you could only really get via mail order. Some suggested I wrote to my MP - David Curry - which I did. Within a week I had a letter from him, signed personally, BT on the phone and lots of promises about the problem. 10 days later it was all sorted and my phone and internet worked. David Curry followed this up with a letter asking me to confirm it was fixed.
Needless to say I was impressed with the reaction my letter got from Mr. Curry, particularly as I got the right result too. The punchline is that when the expenses scandal broke David Curry was listed as having to repay £28,000 and wouldn't be standing at the election!
This is NOT a party political broadcast for the Tories I hasten to add, as they would never get my vote anyway.
My local MP is David Curry, a Tory. In November 2008 ago I had serious problems with my phone and broadband - in the end both died and I had just my mobile. BT (for non-Brits that's the UK's main telecommunications company) were absolutely useless and told me it would take until around February 2009 to fix as it was to do with a telegraph pole in the field outside. As it only serves me they couldn't really care but the idea of coping with Christmas shopping and no online facility to order stuff was daunting as the kids all wanted stuff that you could only really get via mail order. Some suggested I wrote to my MP - David Curry - which I did. Within a week I had a letter from him, signed personally, BT on the phone and lots of promises about the problem. 10 days later it was all sorted and my phone and internet worked. David Curry followed this up with a letter asking me to confirm it was fixed.
Needless to say I was impressed with the reaction my letter got from Mr. Curry, particularly as I got the right result too. The punchline is that when the expenses scandal broke David Curry was listed as having to repay £28,000 and wouldn't be standing at the election!
This is NOT a party political broadcast for the Tories I hasten to add, as they would never get my vote anyway.
Re: Election year.
The Murdoch papers are backing Cameron because he has agreed to Murdoch's terms of dismantling parts of the BBC and doing away with Ofcom.
Re: Election year.
"Evidence relating to the death of Government weapons inspector David Kelly is to be kept secret for 70 years," it has been reported.
Obviously this isn't breaking news but it begs the question as to why! Perhaps it's because anyone with blood on their hands won't be around to face the music by then. I'll remember that on Thursday.
My MP is an independent who's stood for the last two terms. His protest vote has gone far enough now but with the big parties looking less and less attractive I can see he's going to be a nice get out clause and a happy safety net for many in the Wyre Forest area on voting day. Dr Richard Taylor should have a safe seat.
Obviously this isn't breaking news but it begs the question as to why! Perhaps it's because anyone with blood on their hands won't be around to face the music by then. I'll remember that on Thursday.
My MP is an independent who's stood for the last two terms. His protest vote has gone far enough now but with the big parties looking less and less attractive I can see he's going to be a nice get out clause and a happy safety net for many in the Wyre Forest area on voting day. Dr Richard Taylor should have a safe seat.
What more can the heart of a man desire?