Harris vs Trump

[nghst]

I'm thinking and hoping that Harris can win. A good debate performance would go a long way in helping her campaign. After trying to figure out who would be the best candidate to beat Trump, it appears it was her all along. She seems to have risen to the occasion, but Trump is still going to be tough to beat.

[spacemanrich]

I wasn't going to vote for "Old Joe" nor Trump, obviously. With the elections 2 months away the timing couldn't be more perfect. Young or younger than the other candidates, Kamala is injecting new blood and youth into the movement. Staunch Democrat donors had the same idea that "Old Joe" is simply too old and senile at this point. When the switch was made by Old Joe handing the torch to Kamala Harris $ 80 million dollars flowed into her coffers within 24 hours - unprecedented ! $ 200 million dollars within the week. Momentum is working for her as " Orange Face Man " is bumbling and spewing nonsense and the Republicans at this point are frightened and they should be ! It'll be a close election, but I feel Kamala Harris will pull it off. #KamalaHarris24!

[SpEnCeR1]

Except that Harris is also a massive genocide enabler. I suppose it depends on ones priorities. I don't live in the States so can't really comment but the mass slaughter in Gaza must have a bearing ? Altho both main parties are on the Zionist payroll so the Palestinians are fucked whatever. ... horrendous 'human beings' the pair of them

[A saint]

Harris can--and, I suspect, will--win.

To Spencer's point, I'm certainly not going to begrudge any Palestinian-American (or any other person of conscience, really) for withholding their vote. The whole "lesser of two evils" thing makes no Goddamn difference to anyone while the bombs are falling, and until America ends the client state relationship with Israel it's going to keep on happening no matter which party is in charge.

That said, there is an outside chance of moving Kamala to the left on this issue. Trump will merely ensure that Gaza is bombed until there's scarcely a Palestinian person left. Speaking for myself (a Jewish, staunchly anti-Zionist American), it's not a difficult choice, but even the fact that it is a "choice" is an absolute moral nightmare. Fuck Bibi, and fuck everyone who enables this to continue.

[SpEnCeR1]

Harris can--and, I suspect, will--win.

To Spencer's point, I'm certainly not going to begrudge any Palestinian-American (or any other person of conscience, really) for withholding their vote. The whole "lesser of two evils" thing makes no Goddamn difference to anyone while the bombs are falling, and until America ends the client state relationship with Israel it's going to keep on happening no matter which party is in charge.

That said, there is an outside chance of moving Kamala to the left on this issue. Trump will merely ensure that Gaza is bombed until there's scarcely a Palestinian person left. Speaking for myself (a Jewish, staunchly anti-Zionist American), it's not a difficult choice, but even the fact that it is a "choice" is an absolute moral nightmare. Fuck Bibi, and fuck everyone who enables this to continue.

Nice post but I'm not convinced Kamala will do anything but continue the flow of arms and hold those nutjobs in power in Israel close her bosom. But yes a moral nightmare.

[AustinJacob]

I agree with Spencer that Harris' statements on Gaza have been atrocious. The GOP paints her as a radical socialist, but there's truly no evidence to support this. I wish she was as progressive as they portray her. But honestly, her track record is not great. With that said, Biden was similarly Neo-Lib, yet he has been quite progressive in his policies. His funding of genocide is something I cannot look past, however. He has forever earned the title of “Genocide Joe.”

I concur that Harris will continue funding our modern-day Hitler. Even so, I will be voting for her. I'm in a potential swing state and don't think a no-vote of protest will accomplish anything positive. Trump loves fascist dictators almost as much as he loves Ivanka. And I mean, Trump called Biden a Palestinian as a pejorative. He is a xenophobic psychopath who would watch any “shithole country” burn. I'm black-pilled like Spencer and realize the outcome for Palestine will be the same whether it's Trump or Harris. I'm gritting my teeth and voting for Harris, due to the myriad of domestic issues Trump is psychotic on. And I do think he is a threat to democracy. But my wife refuses to vote for Kamala after her recent, disgusting comments about Israel and Gaza, so I don't fault anyone for refusing to vote for her. Just please vote down-ballot.

[nghst]

My hometown Springfield, OH has become the white hot center of the immigration debate even though all of them are legal immigrants from Haiti. Trump said these immigrants were stealing and eating people's pet cats and dogs. These has been shown to be completely false, but Trump and Vance still say it's true. The Republican Mayor of Springfield and the Republican Governor of Ohio have said it is untrue. Now there have been multiple bomb threats in the city. Trump has said he wants to visit Springfield, which will just make things worse.

[SpEnCeR1]

My hometown Springfield, OH has become the white hot center of the immigration debate even though all of them are legal immigrants from Haiti. Trump said these immigrants were stealing and eating people's pet cats and dogs. These has been shown to be completely false, but Trump and Vance still say it's true. The Republican Mayor of Springfield and the Republican Governor of Ohio have said it is untrue. Now there have been multiple bomb threats in the city. Trump has said he wants to visit Springfield, which will just make things worse.

yea, its beyond bizarre ... anyone with half a brain can only look on in stunned bemusement / fear.

[spzretent]

yea, its beyond bizarre ... anyone with half a brain can only look on in stunned bemusement / fear.

Problem is half the country doesn't have half a brain. Alarming.