How The Blues Shoulda Turned Out track listing
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Michael.
Your rant about EAR shows you have formed an opinion based partly on the fact you dislike Pete's music. I don't like much EAR but if that's what he wants to do let him do it. Personally I think John Coltrane's music is horrible - I've tried to see the genius but I don't get it at all. So I leave people to it. And I certainly don't apologise for Pete's musical actions - I'd prefer him to make music more in tune with what I like but he doesn't follow trends or instruction, preferring to do his own thing. That I respect. There are very few who take that line in music making.
I don't think the versions of the songs on How The Blues sound 'exhausted' and I don't think anyone who has heard them thinks so either. Have you heard the discs? If Pete was trying to line his own pockets he'd have done something on a bigger scale. Trying to raise a quick few grand to finish an album isn't quite as offensive as you make it if the resultant music is as good as these CDs are. He has no label, no backing, no money. He earns about £15k a year and has bills to pay the same as anyone else.
I don't see why you are so worked up - you started this by saying Pete has no influence in Spacemen 3. The guy is Jason Pierce's biggest influence by introducing him to so many new sounds. Just seems that as you don't like what Pete is doing and disapprove of How The Blues. Can't get much more out of your rants than that I'm afraid.
Your rant about EAR shows you have formed an opinion based partly on the fact you dislike Pete's music. I don't like much EAR but if that's what he wants to do let him do it. Personally I think John Coltrane's music is horrible - I've tried to see the genius but I don't get it at all. So I leave people to it. And I certainly don't apologise for Pete's musical actions - I'd prefer him to make music more in tune with what I like but he doesn't follow trends or instruction, preferring to do his own thing. That I respect. There are very few who take that line in music making.
I don't think the versions of the songs on How The Blues sound 'exhausted' and I don't think anyone who has heard them thinks so either. Have you heard the discs? If Pete was trying to line his own pockets he'd have done something on a bigger scale. Trying to raise a quick few grand to finish an album isn't quite as offensive as you make it if the resultant music is as good as these CDs are. He has no label, no backing, no money. He earns about £15k a year and has bills to pay the same as anyone else.
I don't see why you are so worked up - you started this by saying Pete has no influence in Spacemen 3. The guy is Jason Pierce's biggest influence by introducing him to so many new sounds. Just seems that as you don't like what Pete is doing and disapprove of How The Blues. Can't get much more out of your rants than that I'm afraid.
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past or present
I'm a little late jumping in here but I don't understand the complaints about the reissue. Pete is criticized for making music that is more experimental in nature (EAR) and he is criticized for living in the past (reissuing Spacemen material). How can he be solely living in the past if he continues to make new music (Spectrum, solo, EAR)? If people want older stuff and he's got it then he should release it. I think this is different than re-releasing the same stuff multiple in a different order: that honor goes to the fine folks at Island Records and the estate of Bob Marley. Now I hope Pete (and Jason) will treat us with respect and not re-release the material everytime a deal runs out with some newfound materials (as Elvis Costello is doing). Either you have the shit or you don't--I don't buy into this "I just found this buried in a closet excuse". I am tired of buying the same release 5 times over because of new formats and the inclusion of new materials. But I think Pete has been fair with us--the first CDs came out without demos and such because they wanted us to hear the album. Now there are reissues with demos. Cool. But I would be pissed if another round of reissues appears with some more stuff. In those cases I think the artist should *also* release a separate CD with just the added stuff for those of us who already bought the CD. Okay, this is rambling. The point is that I don't seem him trying to live off the past. He seems like a guy who cares about music and a guy who is trying to do what he can to make another record. Take care.
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hahaha, this made me chortle. Pete hasn't yelled at anyone for a while now. I kinda miss it, lol.a beautiful noise wrote:ooooooooooh, pete's gonna yell at you!!!
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p/s- but if you do get a copy you know where to send it!!!
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I'm with you on this one Dave. Barring any unforseen physical/mental ailments, it is just a down right snub to take so long to live up to one's end of the bargain AND keep the money all this time. It's total disrespect to Dave. I mean nobody is THAT busy that they cannot be arsed to drop by the post for god sake. BURN BABY BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DISCO INFERNO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THE CDRS FALL WHERE THEY MAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, instead of waiting on Pete, lets get two birds with one stone by starting a tree and send each other cash for copies: we help Pete's struggling distribution department and everyone gets to get down!!!!!
hehe. just kidding pete
Hey, instead of waiting on Pete, lets get two birds with one stone by starting a tree and send each other cash for copies: we help Pete's struggling distribution department and everyone gets to get down!!!!!
hehe. just kidding pete
I think I feel it coming on
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12 days past 4 months now.
just sayin'.
want some genius-level blues/rock/psyche/preachin?
want it cheap and quick?
try my local guy Brother JT, aka John Terlesky from Original Sins.
$5 a disc instead of $20, and i bet you they come within a couple weeks.
http://brotherjt.com/home.cfm
just sayin'.
want some genius-level blues/rock/psyche/preachin?
want it cheap and quick?
try my local guy Brother JT, aka John Terlesky from Original Sins.
$5 a disc instead of $20, and i bet you they come within a couple weeks.
http://brotherjt.com/home.cfm
davedecay wrote:Date: Sep. 14, 2005Anonymous wrote:I got mine last month. Be patient.. It took 3-4 months to get stuff from him last time.
Time: 12:32:15 EDT
Status: Completed
* sigh *
So it looks like January 14th or thereabouts...
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U GUYS......I DUNNO..........purespace wrote:I'm with you on this one Dave. Barring any unforseen physical/mental ailments, it is just a down right snub to take so long to live up to one's end of the bargain AND keep the money all this time. It's total disrespect to Dave. I mean nobody is THAT busy that they cannot be arsed to drop by the post for god sake. BURN BABY BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DISCO INFERNO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THE CDRS FALL WHERE THEY MAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, instead of waiting on Pete, lets get two birds with one stone by starting a tree and send each other cash for copies: we help Pete's struggling distribution department and everyone gets to get down!!!!!
hehe. just kidding pete
I'M SORRY.........I DO BEETTER THAN SOME FOLK ????????????????& WORSE THAN OTHERS .
U THINK I DONT HAVE TO WORK AT THIS ?
BESTEST
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MAYBE I YELL WITHOUT REALISING ? I WRITE IN CAPITALS (OR I COULD ONCE) TOO . I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO MY PHILOSOPHY ABOUT THIS . MY LIFE HAS BEEN PRETTY OBVIOUSLY ABOUT MAKING MUSIC TO MAKE PEOPLES LIVES A LITTLE SWEETER & BEARABLE (AND FUCK IT -MINE TOO !)- AND THATS A FAVOUR STRONGLY OWED TO THOSE WHO DID THAT & MORE FOR ME . IF ITS A CRIME , YOUR A BETTER MAN THAN i.feetsies wrote:hahaha, this made me chortle. Pete hasn't yelled at anyone for a while now. I kinda miss it, lol.a beautiful noise wrote:ooooooooooh, pete's gonna yell at you!!!
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p/s- but if you do get a copy you know where to send it!!!
iF I WORKED DESIGNING ,EG, I'D BE SORTA HAPPY , BUT WOULD U CARE AS MUCH ? i'D HOPE SO , BUT DOUBT IT .
NOT SHOUTING , DROWNING
LUV
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[/quote]michael poiu wrote:You know, it's really sweet to see everyone coming out in Pete's defense - in response to my comment; "I can't wait till he releases these same tracks in a different order, that will be awsome!"
Wont it though?
Isn't this what you've accustomed yourselves to in the past 15 or 16 years since the 3's demise? Pete exhausting his efforts and resources on cover art and rearranging track listings rather than creating real music (because that racket he’s creating under the pseudonym Sonic Boom can hardly be called music)... but hey let’s be honest, isn’t it really just appearences that moves the vapid like you?
You should devote some serious attention to this: Everyday, in our popular culture, the public is constantly being drawn from genuine works of art, by swarms of mediocre artist - (you know, that dull, shallow, insipid breed of men produced daily by the thousands) - for being akin to their own nature, they always seize on what is perverse and dull. These 'artist' not only draw attention from genuine works of art, but annihalate the lying possibility of the education these works afford, and retard the progress of our age by limiting their influence. Proof of this can be seen in the old rule, the longer it takes for an artist to gain his influence, the longer this influence usually lasts.
This swarm of mediocrity should be met with critisicm for the simple fact that the artist should be ‘made to apply his muse else where’. Now, given Spacemen 3 have had a huge influence over me personally, Pete's side projects I've not been too impressed with, which leads me to believe he had very little to do with their success. Jason Peirce will go down as one of the most influential artists of our time - of Pete's influence, as I've said, I'm not so confident. However, I was incredibly impressed with Spacemen 3 and if I am mistaken, then now more than ever, this artist should be met with a criticism that is long over due - as to apply his resources towards a brilliance - once exuberant in his youth, now diminishing along with it.
For the simple fact that he releases the same tracks in different orders, with sporadic insinuations of unreleased tracks to grasp your attention (and pocket books) – I am made to believe he’s now in it for the money and no longer the art – and you’re all falling for a ruse as common and old as it is pathetic - done soley for money. As I have said I may be wrong. And Pete, if you’re listening, some of your releases with Spacemen 3 are fantastic. However, take a hint, you’ve exhausted them. Apply your muse towards the music, not the cover art and track listings meant merely to supplement it.
Michael
mICHAEL , YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUTR OPINIONS -IN FACT , I'VE OFTEN RELIED ON SIMILAR FROM SIMILAR FOLK . aS LONG AS IT MAKES YOU UNHAPPY , THATS MADE ME KNOW I'M DOINNNG SOMETHING RIGHT . i CANT EXPECT YOU TO UNDERSND & I DONT.
iI'VE LONG TRIED TO CROSS TALENTNESS WITH MINIMALISM . I'M DEVASTATED YOU FOR ASSURED ME I'VE FAILED.
HAVE A GOOD WEEK
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DEAR PETE,
IT WAS ALL JOKES REALLY, I JUST WANTED YOU TO POST. I KNOW YOU WEREN'T YELLING SO MUCH AS PUTTING PEOPLE IN THEIR PLACE WHICH I FIND AMUSING.
SMOOCHES,
AMELIA
IT WAS ALL JOKES REALLY, I JUST WANTED YOU TO POST. I KNOW YOU WEREN'T YELLING SO MUCH AS PUTTING PEOPLE IN THEIR PLACE WHICH I FIND AMUSING.
SMOOCHES,
AMELIA
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JABBAER JABBER
Hey Pete I live in L.A. I am not realy sure what the hell you guys are all trying to figure out. But where can I get a copy of this 2 cd set.
By the way when are you coming back to Cali.
Last show I saw you was as the Troubador. Fuckin Awesome.
I felt the fuzz all in my head. Staying cool in Cali- spacecadet
By the way when are you coming back to Cali.
Last show I saw you was as the Troubador. Fuckin Awesome.
I felt the fuzz all in my head. Staying cool in Cali- spacecadet
Re: JABBAER JABBER
I'm from LA and I got me a copy. Just email him: sonic@sonicboomuk.fsnet.co.ukspacecadet01 wrote:Hey Pete I live in L.A. I am not realy sure what the hell you guys are all trying to figure out. But where can I get a copy of this 2 cd set.
He'll probably tell you to paypal him the money.
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I'll confess 2 being a bit Loaded that day , its menna say 'cross talentlessness with minimalism'........BAH! wrote:"iI'VE LONG TRIED TO CROSS TALENTNESS WITH MINIMALISM"
Fucking great, i say. Not an easy job if you ask me. I would hade failed. Bigtime.
Keep up the good work Pete! The SP3 CD set is the best goddam record of the year for me.
Johan
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have u not got this yet ?davedecay wrote:i go to my post office box every day hoping to see my discs, but they have not arrived yet. i s'pose it's the slow boat from the UK, maybe they got lost going 'round the sea serpents and viking attack vessels?
email me at sonic@sonic-boom.info
i'll sort it.
I know sometimes i'm a bit slow .
I manage myself ,create & distribute this paraphenalia , record new stuff , help other bands out where I can , as well as being my own booking agent (leastways for E.A.R. & my DJ'ing), as well as try to have a social life .
so , in advance , apolagies if something seems slow.
I've never ripped anyone off & if Amazon have it , be my guest .
bestest
pete
pete,
first,: never thought you'd be one to rip anyone off. not sure what the Amazon thing means, i was just joking about those old world maps with the drawings of what was in the seas.
second: i'll dash off an email regarding the order. i realize stuff happens, thanks for following up on this. no worries, all will be sorted, i'm sure.
dave
first,: never thought you'd be one to rip anyone off. not sure what the Amazon thing means, i was just joking about those old world maps with the drawings of what was in the seas.
second: i'll dash off an email regarding the order. i realize stuff happens, thanks for following up on this. no worries, all will be sorted, i'm sure.
dave
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no ,davedecay wrote:pete,
first,: never thought you'd be one to rip anyone off. not sure what the Amazon thing means, i was just joking about those old world maps with the drawings of what was in the seas.
second: i'll dash off an email regarding the order. i realize stuff happens, thanks for following up on this. no worries, all will be sorted, i'm sure.
dave
no sweat . just saying it like it is.
i meant amazon -the site for buying cds & shit . the amazon would be a bit out the way , even in a serpent powered longship .
I never use them either.....
I wish i had more time 2.....
Hey Pete! I got that. understood what you were trying to say...thought it was kinda funny tho....sonic boom wrote:I'll confess 2 being a bit Loaded that day , its menna say 'cross talentlessness with minimalism'........BAH! wrote:"iI'VE LONG TRIED TO CROSS TALENTNESS WITH MINIMALISM"
Fucking great, i say. Not an easy job if you ask me. I would hade failed. Bigtime.
Keep up the good work Pete! The SP3 CD set is the best goddam record of the year for me.
Johan
best
pk
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ya got me there .will this do? wrote:Eh?wtd? wrote:Why are there no credits on the sleeve of the Spacelines Cd, Peter?
hmmm........
I can tell you tho ,
u can tell from my sleeve notes datres right ?
according to the period it those people . our credits were never totally pure anyway .Everyone played therir parts on the whole , but if anything was problematic whoever did it best quickest did it . Often Jason did a vast amount of work in a very short time - onTHINGS'LL NEVER BE THE SAME he worked out his guitar part backwards , reversed the tape , played to a backwards track -check that out if you wanna get trippy , and recorded his takes in about 2 hours tops......He often played the organ too , and plays keyboards very adequately .
sorry bout the missed props .they all know they did what they did .
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sonic boom wrote:ya got me there .will this do? wrote:Eh?wtd? wrote:Why are there no credits on the sleeve of the Spacelines Cd, Peter?
hmmm........
I can tell you tho ,
u can tell from my sleeve notes datres right ?
.....
sorry bout the missed props .they all know they did what they did .
Pete k
No! I mean the 'Spacelines' compilation of yr. influences... Rolf Harris, John Mayall et al. (I love it greatly, by the way)...
Lipsmackin' thirstquenchin' acetastin' motivatin' goodbuzzin' cooltalkin'
highwalkin' fastlivin' evergivin' self aggrandizin' willthisdo?
highwalkin' fastlivin' evergivin' self aggrandizin' willthisdo?
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oh . ok.will this do? wrote:sonic boom wrote:ya got me there .will this do? wrote:Eh?wtd? wrote:Why are there no credits on the sleeve of the Spacelines Cd, Peter?
hmmm........
I can tell you tho ,
u can tell from my sleeve notes datres right ?
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sorry bout the missed props .they all know they did what they did .
Pete k
No! I mean the 'Spacelines' compilation of yr. influences... Rolf Harris, John Mayall et al. (I love it greatly, by the way)...
cos its a bootleg ,out & out.
its on no label if u look -its on Munster actually .......pirates !
i dont mind my address being on it .never got any contact from any those peeple except a couple i know , but i'd like to .
I got permissions for a few -. or you mean songwriting credits ?
An iPOD will give you all that , nicely , even offa any cd as long as u hook up online whilst on Itunes i think .
SPACELINES 2 is in the pipeline .
regds
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well , that guy - was it you ? was a nut . cool.Anonymous wrote:Hey Pete! I got that. understood what you were trying to say...thought it was kinda funny tho....sonic boom wrote:I'll confess 2 being a bit Loaded that day , its menna say 'cross talentlessness with minimalism'........BAH! wrote:"iI'VE LONG TRIED TO CROSS TALENTNESS WITH MINIMALISM"
Fucking great, i say. Not an easy job if you ask me. I would hade failed. Bigtime.
Keep up the good work Pete! The SP3 CD set is the best goddam record of the year for me.
Johan
best
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Johan
glad u were amused
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sonic boom wrote:why dont u burn the s3 catalogue while you're at it & include them free. am I the only person who equates paying for the music /products i like to support the band to continue to exist/release stuff ? Or does everyone think they've a right to everything they desire , cost free. Does anyone out there understand economics outside of their pocket money ?
sometimes I wonder.......
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sonic boom wrote:Why are there no credits on the sleeve of the Spacelines Cd?
cos its a bootleg ,out & out.
regds
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Thank you, Guest... that's kinda what I was driving at... meanwhile, I look forward to Spacelines 2, etcAnonymous wrote:sonic boom wrote:why dont u burn the s3 catalogue while you're at it & include them free. am I the only person who equates paying for the music /products i like to support the band to continue to exist/release stuff ? Or does everyone think they've a right to everything they desire , cost free. Does anyone out there understand economics outside of their pocket money ?
sometimes I wonder.......
bestest
Pete Ksonic boom wrote:Why are there no credits on the sleeve of the Spacelines Cd?
cos its a bootleg ,out & out.
regds
pk
Lipsmackin' thirstquenchin' acetastin' motivatin' goodbuzzin' cooltalkin'
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Amen. I just ordered Willie's new Freelovebabies limited edition cd last week and guess what? I just received it in the post this morning here in the States AND it has custom art work on the cover by Willie himself. Now, how is that for prompt?Anonymous wrote:Davedecay has the patience of a saint.
I now surmise that fans are treated according the hunger of the artist . . . I elect Willie for Sonic and J's merchandising agent. Beats the hell out of me why Sonic would offer shirts he didn't have in his possession now with 4 months and counting. Are things really that slow across the pond? Anyway, no longer going to beat this dead horse. I'm never buying from this site or Sonic's again which is a shame. I would never think of treating my customers at my retail business in this fashion. In fact, I would be out of business.
I think I feel it coming on
Good, in't it!purespace wrote:Amen. I just ordered Willie's new Freelovebabies limited edition cd last week and guess what? I just received it in the post this morning here in the States AND it has custom art work on the cover by Willie himself. Now, how is that for prompt?Anonymous wrote:Davedecay has the patience of a saint.
mmmmmm lordy! its got me GROOVIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! willie has got it going on. word.slim wrote:Good, in't it!purespace wrote:Amen. I just ordered Willie's new Freelovebabies limited edition cd last week and guess what? I just received it in the post this morning here in the States AND it has custom art work on the cover by Willie himself. Now, how is that for prompt?Anonymous wrote:Davedecay has the patience of a saint.
I think I feel it coming on